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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48439 
Subject: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 9:42 AM
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"An incident near DCA appears to be the deadliest aviation disaster in the US since 9/11."

"Trump fires heads of TSA, Coast Guard and guts key aviation safety advisory committee"

"The head of the FAA, Mike Whitaker, resigned on January 20 after facing relentless criticism from Musk for not approving SpaceX missions quickly enough.
The Senate confirmed him unanimously in 2023. No acting FAA head has been appointed."

"I take no responsibility" ~Trump

https://apnews.com/article/coast-guard-homeland-se...

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/12/nx-s1-5226796/faa-h...
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 10:10 AM
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Let's not get ahead of things here. It will take a while to figure out what happened in this incident. One thing that will need to be looked at closely is if the pilots of the two aircraft were following the instructions from ATC. The helo was instructed to maintain visual separation from the plane, and acknowledged that it had the plane in sight and would maintain that separation. Clearly, that didn't happen. The question is going to be why it didn't happen. Was the helo pilot looking at the wrong plane? (There were a number of other planes in the area, so that's certainly possible.) Did the controller give an instruction that couldn't be followed or was inappropriate? Lots of questions, zero answers at the moment. So let's not jump to conclusions.

I doubt there's anything that the FAA administrator could do directly here.

But this also points up that airspace around this airport is extremely crowded, with multiple flight restrictions. As a lay person, I question whether this airport should operate at all with the given restrictions. That WOULD be something the head of the FAA could address.

Bottom line, let's not turn this one into a political ideology contest. Trump's actions around leadership of various agencies is a separate issue from this crash.

--Peter
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 10:30 AM
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Bottom line, let's not turn this one into a political ideology contest. Trump's actions around leadership of various agencies is a separate issue from this crash.

Good point, Peter.

But I think the original post addressed the manner in which Trump tries to use every opportunity to shift blame to his perceived enemies.
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 10:46 AM
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But I think the original post addressed the manner in which Trump tries to use every opportunity to shift blame to his perceived enemies.

Bingo we have a winner!

Also: Last week Trump froze the hiring of much needed air traffic controllers...Who's to blame? Sleepy Joe Biden or the Haitian immigrants?

“Our top priority must be the safety of the flying public so an order freezing the hiring of air traffic controllers is a misguided decision and goes against the directives of our FAA Reauthorization bill.
The aviation community will speak with one voice in condemning this short-sighted policy and reaffirm our commitment to hiring the critical personnel necessary for ensuring public safety.”

https://democrats-transportation.house.gov/news/pr...
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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 11:33 AM
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But I think the original post addressed the manner in which Trump tries to use every opportunity to shift blame to his perceived enemies.

Already, in his "address" to the media about the crash, Trump has blamed DEI, those with disabilities - including dwarfism! - and Pete Buttigieg for anything and everything. It's fukcing sickening.
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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 11:45 AM
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Joe Biden of course.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 1:56 PM
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Well, we called it on this board...the Felon is blaming DEI and Democrats. Not directly immigrants or trans-pilots, but the same idea.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/us/politics/tru...

President Trump’s remarks, suggesting without evidence that diversity in hiring and other Biden administration policies somehow caused the disaster,...
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 2:25 PM
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So let's not jump to conclusions.

It was alien Chinese drones with Jewish space lasers I tell ya!
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 3:18 PM
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"Trump fires heads of TSA, Coast Guard and guts key aviation safety advisory committee"

Would someone explain the rationale for this move? Is he doing this just to install loyalists? At TSA and the Coast Guard?
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 4:22 PM
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Would someone explain the rationale for this move?

Rational thought from Trump? Surely you jest.

Is he doing this just to install loyalists?

Yes.

At TSA and the Coast Guard?

Why not? Publicly firing leaders helps instill fear into those who remain. Fear is the only tool the guy has.

--Peter
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 5:22 PM
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Would someone explain the rationale for this move? Is he doing this just to install loyalists? At TSA and the Coast Guard?

Yep. Or actually, it's to get rid of them because they were too "woke."

When Biden assumed office, he issued a whole of government order to all the agencies to promote diversity in the federal workforce. Because he was the President (and Commander in Chief), the agencies followed that order. Now Trump has come in with different priorities. But since he views things in personal terms, he's firing all the people who followed Biden's orders as untrustworthy. Even though that was their job, and even though one of his main positions is that federal workers are supposed to follow the direction of the President.

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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/30/2025 6:44 PM
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Yep. Or actually, it's to get rid of them because they were too "woke."

Thanks Albaby, I hadn't even thought about how he could view people as "woke" just if they followed orders. I remember back when I had to drop the word "oriental' from my vocabulary and refer to people as "Asian-Pacific Islander" or just "Asian". Oriental was not to be used. Now I never see the term, but my side of the island I I lived on in the PI was Negros Oriental. And Negros referred to the Negrense people that lived there, but the only tribe that was black were the Negritos, and there were only about a thousand left. The Negritos aren't African, want to live away from people, and don't like visitors.

I'm glad I have somewhere to go to help me understand this. It's going to be tough. :(
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Author: UpNorthJoe 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/31/2025 10:30 AM
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"Rational thought from Trump? "

Trump/Elon forced out head of FAA, before this crash happened, right ?
If this had happened under Biden, the right-wing propaganda media would have been
calling for his head on a platter.

How come the left-wing propaganda media can't mount an effective attack on Trump/Elon over this
blunder ?

Dems are still playing nicie/nice. Reminds me of the pictures from Jimmy Carter lying in state
at the Capitol. Obama and others that had said Trump is a budding American Hitler, smiling
and talking to Trump. BS like that pisses me off. Trump should be shunned like a pariah.
The media should ask blunt questions of him, and they should shout over the top of him when
he goes into his deflect,deflect,deflect spiels. But nope, Dems gonna play by the "rules"
of civil society. Gonna get their butts kicked again if they don't roll up their sleeves and get
down and dirty with Trump and MAGA.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/31/2025 10:42 AM
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Gonna get their butts kicked again if they don't roll up their sleeves and get
down and dirty with Trump and MAGA. - UNJ


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Dems are gonna get their butts kicked again until they figure out what drove voters to elect Trump. Calling Trump Hitler and his supporters garbage while ignoring main street issues like open borders and immigrant crime in favor of getting down and dirty with Trump and MAGA will not do much to alter that reality.
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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/31/2025 10:53 AM
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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/31/2025 12:29 PM
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Dems are gonna get their butts kicked again


I think Trump will stumblef**k us right into a recession, which you'll try to blame the democrats for, but it won't succeed.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who Will They Blame? Trans pilot? Immigrant
Date: 01/31/2025 1:30 PM
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Dems are gonna get their butts kicked again until they figure out what drove voters to elect Trump.

We already know. Inflation (2-4 years ago...it's been normal the past 2 or so years), and border security (which they tightened in late 2023 after complaints from members of their own party). And, of course, the paranoia about brown people ("they're eating the pets!"), and DEI; which was hyped-up by the right-wing propaganda machine. But mostly inflation and border crossings, both of which were under control in 2024, but apparently too late.

I strongly suspect that the Felon will create such a mess that the Reps are going to get their asses handed to them in 2026 and 2028. He's off to a stellar start for Dems.
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