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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 11:46 AM
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More than 5 weeks after being selected by the people who really run the democrat party to be their nominee, Kamala Harris is finally going to take some hard-hitting questions from the notably brutal-to-left wingers Dana Bash and her Completely Down The Middle Network CNN.

And...as a bonus, she's bringing backup!

https://x.com/ScottJenningsKY/status/1828591617676...

Weak sauce for Kamala Harris to demand an emotional support animal for her first interview. Shows an extreme lack of confidence for Thursday night event on
@cnn


It's not only weak sauce for the interview, but it's going to be Weak Sauce for the entire campaign. She absolutely will not be seriously challenged on her flip-flops or lack of positions at any point in the campaign.

And that's the point. She was a terrible candidate last time for a reason.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 12:38 PM
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Even better...this interview is on tape.

Lame.
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 1:34 PM
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She won't be challenged.

Not even 50% of what Trump gets in interviews.

Paternalistic Racist Liberals don't put their pets thru that.


The worst part about this: Trump is within inches of winning this thing. Even dialing down the retard factor by 50% + having a good debate would clinch it.

Losing to a weak version of Dukakis. I just can't digest it.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 1:35 PM
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She won't be challenged.

Not even 50% of what Trump gets in interviews.

Paternalistic Racist Liberals don't put their pets thru that.


At least she has her dad along to mansplain her answers. Just like Millennials bringing their parents to job interviews.
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 3:22 PM
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Ok they put Walz with her.

Even on a friendly network they knew not to leave Harris unsupervised.

Those holding Harris's leash - -- - are smart.

I so wish Trump was a 4 legged woof woof mentality where KellyAnne or Suzie could put a leash on him and tell him what to do also.

Credit to Harris: She knows she's just window dressing but she just might be the President.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 4:15 PM
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It's not only weak sauce for the interview, but it's going to be Weak Sauce for the entire campaign. = Dope

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Since Harris is representing progress for all women, the fact that she needs a male support animal certainly undermines her desired image as a strong, confident leader. I would think this would be a turn off to many of the women from whom she expects support.
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 6:13 PM
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Dope1: At least she has her dad along to mansplain her answers.

bighairymike: Since Harris is representing progress for all women, the fact that she needs a male support animal certainly undermines her desired image as a strong, confident leader. I would think this would be a turn off to many of the women from whom she expects support.

Well, sorry fellas, but I'm going to be contemptible here: you're morons.

Parker Molloy shared photographs of Obama-Biden, Romney-Ryan, Trump-Pence, and Biden-Harris all doing joint news conferences/interviews during their presidential campaigns.

I look forward to your apologies.

https://x.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1828792748234944...
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 6:18 PM
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Dope1: At least she has her dad along to mansplain her answers.

bighairymike: Since Harris is representing progress for all women, the fact that she needs a male support animal certainly undermines her desired image as a strong, confident leader. I would think this would be a turn off to many of the women from whom she expects support.


You can anticipate almost exactly what a Trumper will say on any given day...just watch FOX 'news'. All aboard the propaganda train. Get your programming so you know what to spew.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 6:23 PM
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Parker Molloy shared photographs of Obama-Biden, Romney-Ryan, Trump-Pence, and Biden-Harris all doing joint news conferences/interviews during their presidential campaigns.

I look forward to your apologies.


How many of those campaigns had 100% of their interviews that way more than 5 weeks after they got going?

The answer is zero.

Just when I think your programming hits rock bottom, you surprise me and prove there are even more things it can screw up. Congrats.
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 6:25 PM
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You can anticipate almost exactly what a Trumper will say on any given day...just watch FOX 'news'. All aboard the propaganda train. Get your programming so you know what to spew.

Isn't interesting how the MAGA bots all parrot the same exact things?

"Orthodoxy means not thinking--not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." ~George Orwell, 1984
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 7:10 PM
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Me: Well, sorry fellas, but I'm going to be contemptible...

Jeez, I have to Grammar Nazi myself. I should have written: "I have to express my contempt..."


Dope1: How many of those campaigns had 100% of their interviews that way more than 5 weeks after they got going?

They were officially nominated six days ago. And all of those campaigns did exactly the same thing.

Barack Obama and Joe Biden sat for an interview with 60 minutes after Mr Biden was selected as the vice-presidential nominee in 2008. Eight years later, Hillary Clinton and her running mate Tim Kaine did the same. For Ms Harris and Mr Biden in 2020, they picked ABC’s 20/20. And less than a week after Trump announced JD Vance as his running mate, the pair were jointly interviewed on Fox.

You really are a moron.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3d72dxe5zo
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 7:18 PM
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You can anticipate almost exactly what a Trumper will say on any given day...just watch FOX 'news'.

In some ways it’s even easier than that. Whatever it is, you can be sure it’s a grievance of some kind.

Why won’t Kamala do an interview?

Kamala schedules interview.

It’s with the wrong network! She must be afraid of tough questions. Why wasn’t it on Fox?
She’s bringing Walz along! She needs her daddy to protect her! Can’t she stand on her own?
It took too long to schedule the interview!
Whine, whine, whine.


I blame Seinfeld. It’s a never-ending Festivus celebration with its airing of grievances.

—Peter
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 8:19 PM
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Well, sorry fellas, but I'm going to be contemptible here: you're morons. - CO

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Nah, despite your irksome manner, I don't find you contemptible.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 8:26 PM
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I blame Seinfeld. It’s a never-ending Festivus celebration with its airing of grievances.

—Peter


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There was much wisdom embedded in those Seinfeld episodes.

For example, here is Elaine speaking about Kamala's campaign...

No, no, no. It's weak. No one's gonna buy it, and you shouldn't be selling it.
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 8:42 PM
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For example, here is Elaine speaking about Kamala's campaign...

No, no, no. It's weak. No one's gonna buy it, and you shouldn't be selling it.


Well, at least some folks are buying it. The polling right now is at a dead heat, roughly; the betting markets are the same. By all measures, the race is a toss-up. Quite a bit different from where it was prior to Biden exiting.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/28/2024 8:45 PM
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Lulzies, ChatNPC.
First off, your programmers sent out that exact same talking point and you’re merely repeating it as any Non-Player Character would:

https://x.com/IanSams/status/1828877818509377589?r...

The joint ticket interview is an election year summer tradition going back 20 years. Kerry/Edwards, Obama/Biden, Romney/Ryan, Trump/Pence, Clinton/Kaine, Biden/Harris all did them. Almost always right around the conventions. Harris/Walz join this rich tradition on CNN tomorrow.

Secondly, did the campaign just start 6 days ago? Or maybe it’s a thing in her capacity as the sitting VP of the United States that she could do an interview?

Lol@u. Still reaching, still grasping after all these years.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 7:16 AM
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Dope1: Lulzies, ChatNPC.
First off, your programmers sent out that exact same talking point and you’re merely repeating it as any Non-Player Character would...


Let's review.

You started this thread by repeating a talking point from an editorial by Scott Jennings who wrote that it was "Weak sauce for Kamala Harris to demand an emotional support animal for her first interview."

Naturally, journalists looked at the historical record and, gee, golly, discovered that in fact Obama-Biden, Romney-Ryan, Trump-Pence, and Biden-Harris all did exactly the same thing Jennings was criticizing Harris for doing and held joint news conferences/interviews during the first week of their official nominations.

In other words, Scott Jennings is full of sh1t.

BTW buddy, you have a tell: whenever you've lost an argument, you declare "lulzies".

And that "ChatNPC" nonsense isn't as clever as you seem to think it is -- seriously, NPC references died with the Dwayne Johnson reboot of Jumanji -- and repeating it doesn't make it more clever.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 9:52 AM
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It’s not a “talking point” for the person who wants to lead the free world to duck interviews for over a month. If you can’t process that, then you’ve got bigger problems.

Never saw the movie you’re referring to. You’re a repetitive poster who spews out democrat talking points much the same way a badly programmed, reliably nasty spam bot would. Hence ChatNPC. Wear it with pride.
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Author: AlphaWolf   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 10:42 AM
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It’s not a “talking point” for the person who wants to lead the free world to duck interviews for over a month. If you can’t process that, then you’ve got bigger problems.

My take: Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself.

Process that.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 11:38 AM
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My take: Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself.

Process that. - AW


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It is painful to admit, but I am forced to agree with you.

Kamala is a light weight who can't beat Trump on the issues, but Trump can beat Trump, easily. And so far that is exactly what he doing. He keeps pitching to the base not realizing his coarse language, while understood by the base, will drive the independents away.

Advice is swirling all around him but so far, every time I watch a clip of a Trump rally, I cringe a time or two. The solution may very well require the shock collar on Trump's nutsack with Kellyanne at the controls.
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 12:02 PM
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It’s not a “talking point” for the person who wants to lead the free world to duck interviews for over a month. If you can’t process that, then you’ve got bigger problems.

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Wait.... Someone's concerned about someone RUNNING for President ducking press conferences for over a MONTH? So what explains someone who actually IS President not holding a formal press conference for over THREE HUNDRED DAYS? Not just the President not holding a press conference, but the President's press secretary not holding a formal press conference for 300 days to explain anything going on in the entire Executive Branch.

https://theconversation.com/trump-white-house-goes...



WTH
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 12:18 PM
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Kamala is a light weight who can't beat Trump on the issues,...

I agree with much of what you say, but not this. You're always talking about prosperity and security. The convict provides neither. We have history. Kamala is untested, but part of an administration that has provided both. Economy is humming along. Security ties with our allies are MUCH improved since 2020. And until Congress changes the law, the southern border is what it is (as was explained several months ago).

Obviously there are factors that no POTUS can control, but will get the credit/blame for anyway. But four more years of what we've had the past four years would be great. Just need to let tax cuts for the obscenely wealthy expire, and a few other details, to get the deficit under control. Or at least more control then when the convict had the reins ($8.4T committed over 10 years). Even allowing for COVID, he was anything but a debt hawk.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Economy is humming along. Security ties with our allies are MUCH improved since 2020.

How is a wide open southern border "secure"? How is baked-in inflation making the economy "hum"?

People are spending, but it's all going on credit cards. Can young people afford to buy a house today?
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 12:35 PM
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But four more years of what we've had the past four years would be great. = 1pg

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We simply cannot afford the immigrants that are already here let alone a steady torrent of incoming. We see that in big cities where huge $$ are being taken from programs to assist inner city poor, etc. The funds are instead being used to house, provide medical attention, or incarceration. Crime is already a big problem, now exacerbated by de-funding the police to help pay for the sustenance of a rapidly expanding immigrant community.

Mississippi was a poor state to begin with, then layer in another $104M,

https://www.osa.ms.gov/news/auditors-office-releas...

Auditor's Office Releases Report on the Cost of Illegal Immigration to Taxpayers

The report shows spending on education, healthcare, and public safety drives this cost. Mississippi taxpayers annually pay around:

$25 million to educate illegal immigrants in K-12 public schools
$77 million to provide healthcare to illegal immigrants and their children
$1.7 million to incarcerate illegal immigrants

The full report titled “How Illegal Immigration Hurts Taxpayers” can be found on the “Reports” tab on the Auditor’s website and searching “immigration.”

... more groovy consequences at the link
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 1:14 PM
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Kamala is a light weight

Yeah. I remember Albaby and others saying how impossible it would be to coalesce the Dems around a new candidate and put together a functioning election team and coordinate a Convention and pick a new VP candidate and do fundraising and start putting policies together and agree to debates and travel around campaigning and have any chance of changing the Democrats’ poll numbers.

Certainly no “lightweight” could do all that, right?
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We simply cannot afford the immigrants that are already here let alone a steady torrent of incoming.

Sure. So lobby your congresspersons to change the law. Hold their feet to the fire to reach a compromise, and not listen to the convict when he wants a campaign issue. I'm all for it.
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
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Yeah. I remember Albaby and others saying how impossible it would be to coalesce the Dems around a new candidate and put together a functioning election team and coordinate a Convention and pick a new VP candidate and do fundraising and start putting policies together and agree to debates and travel around campaigning and have any chance of changing the Democrats’ poll numbers.

Yep. It's actually rather amazing. Harris didn't just hit the high end of expectations - she utterly exceeded expectations in managing the transition from Biden to her candidacy. Not a single wrong foot, not a single mistake. She managed to thread the needle perfectly and massage all the behind-the-scenes gladhandling and coalition building in a way that minimized any ruptures in what is normally a very fractious coalition. Seriously - she came out of that process with nearly every single faction in the party on-board, all of the other competitors for the nod (esp. Newsome) keeping their powder dry. She even managed to finesse the Gaza conflict with probably the absolute minimum amount of drama and impact to her campaign.

I mean, just look at public perception of her:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/favorabilit...

....even with most people not realizing the degree of difficulty of what she just pulled off.

Again, the race is an absolute toss-up. There's every chance that Harris will lose. But for the Democratic party to be in a spot where there's even odds? An absolutely astounding job by Harris, under the spotlight, and with all the pressure in the world on her.
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" Again, the race is an absolute toss-up. There's every chance that Harris will lose. But for the Democratic party to be in a spot where there's even odds? An absolutely astounding job by Harris, under the spotlight, and with all the pressure in the world on her."

Come on albaby, are you saying beating trump shouldn't be a layup? Can you think of any unforced errors trump forgot to make the past 60 days? Thank you.
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Yep. It's actually rather amazing. Harris didn't just hit the high end of expectations - she utterly exceeded expectations in managing the transition from Biden to her candidacy. Not a single wrong foot, not a single mistake. She managed to thread the needle perfectly and massage all the behind-the-scenes gladhandling and coalition building in a way that minimized any ruptures in what is normally a very fractious coalition. Seriously - she came out of that process with nearly every single faction in the party on-board, all of the other competitors for the nod (esp. Newsome) keeping their powder dry. She even managed to finesse the Gaza conflict with probably the absolute minimum amount of drama and impact to her campaign.

Yes. I dud appreciate your three pathway assessment, and it seems like we've had some luck go our way too.
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Certainly no “lightweight” could do all that, right?

Oh, Harris went out and did all that herself, did she?

Yeah...no.

Your post is more a statement about how democrats will follow anybody with a [d] in the name.
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bighairymike: The report shows spending on education, healthcare, and public safety drives this cost. Mississippi taxpayers annually pay around:

$25 million to educate illegal immigrants in K-12 public schools
$77 million to provide healthcare to illegal immigrants and their children


I'm going to take wild guess that you read the auditor's summary but did not read the actual report.

Here's why.

The report states that it's healthcare spending estimate for illegal immigrants is $77 million. To reach that number, the auditor assumes that 50% of the illegal immigrant population (or all uninsured illegal immigrants) in Mississippi visit the ER once a year, accounting for $45 million of the $77 million total.

Seriously?

Every single uninsured illegal immigrant in Mississippi goes the ER once a year?

Here's another problem in the report: the auditor took illegal immigrant population estimates from two different sources, one a numerical estimate and the other a share of the population, and used them interchangeably.

Oops.

And then there's this: the report completely ignored the tax revenues collected from illegal immigrants in the state. Tax revenues that would have lessened the impact on taxpayers was never factored into the final costs.

In short, that report is worthless.

But it made you believe that "We simply cannot afford the immigrants that are already here let alone a steady torrent of incoming" because you want to believe it.

Congrats, you've been played.


Full report: https://www.osa.ms.gov/sites/default/files/osa/fil...
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Come on albaby, are you saying beating trump shouldn't be a layup? Can you think of any unforced errors trump forgot to make the past 60 days?

Yes, beating Trump isn't going to be a layup. Voters are unhappy with the economy, concerned about immigration, and the level of negative partisanship in the country guarantees Trump (or any GOP candidate) a pretty decent "floor" to start from. IMHO, Trump was the odds-on favorite to win the race coming out of the RNC.

Harris has managed to get the Democrats to perhaps the best possible place they could have gotten to by Labor Day. No guarantees she'll keep it up, but her management of the transition from Biden to her candidacy has been superlative. Biden's debate performance was so horrific that it became worth the risk of him stepping down even in favor of any Replacement Generic Democrat - but Harris' performance over the last month puts her leagues beyond the "RGD" standard.
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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
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But it made you believe that "We simply cannot afford the immigrants that are already here let alone a steady torrent of incoming" because you want to believe it.

Congrats, you've been played. = CO


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OK, the Auditors office for the state of Mississippi is infested with MAGA spin.

Substitute NYC, Chicago, Aurora CO, etc and the point remains, we cannot afford it.

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Author: AlphaWolf   😊 😞
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Oh, Harris went out and did all that herself, did she?

Yeah...no.


Of course not and nobody has said she did it all on her own. But she’s smart enough to hire people who are experts in elections AND she’s smart enough to listen and learn from them. A excellent quality for a great President.

This is unlike the Republican cult that is all in for a flawed individual who actually thinks that he is smarter than everyone else about everything. In reality, Trump is pretty ignorant. And you worship him. That’s on you.

Your post is more a statement about how democrats will follow anybody with a [d] in the name.

You mean like Biden?




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Subject: Re: Kamala's 1st interview!
Date: 08/29/2024 4:11 PM
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No guarantees she'll keep it up, but her management of the transition from Biden to her candidacy has been superlative.

You mean...David Plouffe's management has been superlative. Kamala - to the extent she's doing anything - is following his blueprint:

-No media access
-Scripted appearances only
-Let Trump hang himself
-Let the media carry all the water

This is the democrat playbook and elements of it have been in place since 2008 for Obama's first run.

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In reality, Trump is pretty ignorant.

I seem to recall someone describing him as a moron. Seems pretty apt.

Fits most of his apologists, too.
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You mean...David Plouffe's management has been superlative.

No - I mean her management has been superlative.

I'm not talking about campaigning against Donald Trump (though that's been decent enough). I'm talking about Harris handling the Democratic party. She - and her team - managed to completely unify the party behind her in lightning fast time. That means that Team Harris managed to massage, placate, ingratiate, and otherwise handle nearly every single major faction, stakeholder, donor, and institutional player in the coalition almost perfectly in less than a few weeks. Everyone got behind her. Everyone felt well-treated enough to be on board. Only Gaza wrinkled that up, but even then the outcome was probably the best feasible scenario.

That's....astonishingly good. Political coalitions are giant, unruly beasts to begin with - and the Democrats are often in disarray even in good times. To get through these last few weeks with an outcome like that required an extraordinarily deft organization executing a well-thought out approach to all those constituencies almost flawlessly. Even while all of Biden's operatives and political lifers were getting their rice bowls broken - some of the (then-currently) most powerful insiders in Washington were getting defenestrated, and Harris avoided any fire from them. Even while the liberal wing was getting disappointed (Harris was never their person and Biden was willing to give them the keys to the kingdom to stay on), Harris avoided any fire from them too. The political skills exercised behind the scenes to get that result can only come from an incredibly adept team hitting every step.

For all I know, she might crater from here. She might tank the public-facing part of the political campaign. But the past month has been nothing short of an historically amazing exercise in internal politics.
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Wait.... Someone's concerned about someone RUNNING for President ducking press conferences for over a MONTH? So what explains someone who actually IS President not holding a formal press conference for over THREE HUNDRED DAYS? Not just the President not holding a press conference, but the President's press secretary not holding a formal press conference for 300 days to explain anything going on in the entire Executive Branch.

I doubt you will get an answer from the cultists here, but you might get some kind of lame excuse. More likely you will be ignored.
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I'm not talking about campaigning against Donald Trump (though that's been decent enough). I'm talking about Harris handling the Democratic party. She - and her team - managed to completely unify the party behind her in lightning fast time.

It certainly went amazingly well. I attribute a lot of that democratic party good will and factional tractability to a desire not to tarnish Biden's selfless decision to suspend his campaign and to his whole hearted endorsement of Harris.
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I'm talking about Harris handling the Democratic party. She - and her team - managed to completely unify the party behind her in lightning fast time.

Kamala was...already on the ticket. It's not like she's some rando outsider they picked, after all.
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I'm talking about Harris handling the Democratic party. She - and her team - managed to completely unify the party behind her in lightning fast time.

It's probably a little easier given the specter of the convict winning the election. People's memories are short, but I'm sure a lot of Dems remember 2016-2020.
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How is a wide open southern border "secure"?

It's not wide open. That is fallacious. The number of "encounters" the BP has proves that. Over 1.9M in the past year (which is down from previous years after COVID). I agree that the law is in need of revision, but that is up to Congress.

There is a lot more to security than just the southern border. We are much more secure now that we've patched relations with our allies (whom the convict alienated), resumed our opposition to totalitarianism (mostly...looking at you, Saudi Arabia whom we continue to allow to skate), and backing that opposition with materiel and support.

People are spending, but it's all going on credit cards.

As it has been for a very long time. Household debt has been on a steady incline since the end of the Obama administration, through both a Dem and a Rep POTUS.

Can young people afford to buy a house today?

Nope. But that has a lot of factors, including that home building has never recovered from the real estate crash over 15 years ago. Builders aren't building because they are -among other factors- wanting a "sure return" and a maximal return. Which they get by restricting supply, driving prices up. Rehabs generally aren't directed for lower-income renters. It's luxury condos. I don't recall the details now, but Kalamazoo is taking steps to alleviate that (I only remember because "Kalamazoo" doesn't enter the news very often).
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But the past month has been nothing short of an historically amazing exercise in internal politics.

I suspect there’s one other factor helping Harris in this exceptional performance. That would be Democrats’ perception of the stakes in this election.

They knew that they would have to coalesce behind someone quickly, as a fractious process would damage the survivor and waste precious time. So when Biden immediately endorsed Harris, those who might have had their own designs on the big chair took a page from the GOP and fell in line.

Harris still had to perform, and do so quickly, to take advantage of the temporarily favorable environment. So this doesn’t diminish her stellar performance in any way. Had she not done well immediately, the opportunity could easily have been lost.

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They knew that they would have to coalesce behind someone quickly, as a fractious process would damage the survivor and waste precious time. So when Biden immediately endorsed Harris, those who might have had their own designs on the big chair took a page from the GOP and fell in line.

Harris still had to perform, and do so quickly, to take advantage of the temporarily favorable environment. So this doesn’t diminish her stellar performance in any way. Had she not done well immediately, the opportunity could easily have been lost.


Certainly a reasonable analysis. I’d just note that there were some who wanted an open convention and for that to play out as happens with multiple candidates. I was one of them. So was Nancy Pelosi, and there were others who did not want a coronation. But yes, with Biden’s endorsement opposition collapsed and/or she moved to consolidate support, depending on your point of view. I’d just note that the next morning she held an all hands meeting with Biden’s team and corralled them into her camp. Brilliant move, especially considering that some of Biden’s team were lukewarm on her at best.
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I’d just note that there were some who wanted an open convention and for that to play out as happens with multiple candidates. I was one of them. So was Nancy Pelosi, and there were others who did not want a coronation. But yes, with Biden’s endorsement opposition collapsed and/or she moved to consolidate support, depending on your point of view. I’d just note that the next morning she held an all hands meeting with Biden’s team and corralled them into her camp. Brilliant move, especially considering that some of Biden’s team were lukewarm on her at best.

Yep. There were plenty of people within the party who were, at first, not sold on Harris being the nominee by acclamation. The nomination is a heady prize, and one that is not claimed lightly. It was by no means a sure thing that Harris and her team would be able to get everyone on board with her being the nominee, and it could easily have spun out of control with a single misstep or miscue. I can't imagine how many one-on-one and small-group sessions Harris must have done, with countless power brokers and thought leaders and donors and on, all in a very short time under enormous pressure.

I don't think the Harris of 2020 could have done it. She's gotten better at some aspects of the job of politics since then. That doesn't mean she's going to be a stellar candidate in all facets. It just means that she demonstrated an enormous amount of political skill navigating from "one of many options" to "she's the choice."
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" I don't think the Harris of 2020 could have done it. She's gotten better at some aspects of the job of politics since then. That doesn't mean she's going to be a stellar candidate in all facets. It just means that she demonstrated an enormous amount of political skill navigating from "one of many options" to "she's the choice."

good morning albaby, come on bud, was there time for the Dem party to play it any other way? WHOSE fault was that? Informed liberals are very thankful for trump, any other republican candidate would be up outside the margin of error, and you know it. Is the progressive wing of the party now, pro fracking? They keep their mouth shut, until they beat trump, period.
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" Yes, beating Trump isn't going to be a layup. Voters are unhappy with the economy, concerned about immigration, and the level of negative partisanship in the country guarantees Trump (or any GOP candidate) a pretty decent "floor" to start from. IMHO, Trump was the odds-on favorite to win the race coming out of the RNC."

Yikes bud, trump was the favorite to beat BIDEN, not any other Dem candidate. Both parties have a floor of 46 percent or so, it's the 5-8 percent in the middle that might move, unless trump comes up with new innovative ways to pi$$ voters off. btw, Meta aka, FB, is still playing their games bro. Before Biden agreed to do the right thing, FB blocked the Lester Holt interview with Biden, I wonder why?
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They knew that they would have to coalesce behind someone quickly, as a fractious process would damage the survivor and waste precious time. So when Biden immediately endorsed Harris, those who might have had their own designs on the big chair took a page from the GOP and fell in line.

Harris still had to perform, and do so quickly, to take advantage of the temporarily favorable environment. So this doesn’t diminish her stellar performance in any way. Had she not done well immediately, the opportunity could easily have been lost.


It's remarkable, it was done smoothly and with no hiccups. I was concerned we'd head for chaos - when you estimate how many people would have to talk to each other to pull off something that smoothly it's impressive. I think 2000 to 3000 people were talking back and forth, state Dems, committees, donors, and Biden campaigners sounding each other out and moving to commit. And it was done smoothly, without any public disparagement of Biden - totally impressive, I have never seen anything like that, especially in Dems.

We can do this! We can put Harris in office!
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