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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48467 
Subject: How not to stabilize Ukraine
Date: 11/25/2024 12:59 PM
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Here's an idea: let's send nuclear weapons to the Ukraine. That'll settle things down and the Russkies won't take it as a provocation, will they?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/21/us/politics/tru...

The one gold-standard security guarantee that Ukraine wants is an invitation to join NATO. But it could not get that under Mr. Biden, and an invitation is unlikely during Mr. Trump’s presidency.

So U.S. and European officials are discussing deterrence as a possible security guarantee for Ukraine, such as stockpiling a conventional arsenal sufficient to strike a punishing blow if Russia violates a cease-fire.

Several officials even suggested that Mr. Biden could return nuclear weapons to Ukraine that were taken from it after the fall of the Soviet Union. That would be an instant and enormous deterrent. But such a step would be complicated and have serious implications.


Yeah, how about...no.

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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How not to stabilize Ukraine
Date: 11/25/2024 4:06 PM
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Here's an idea: let's send nuclear weapons to the Ukraine. That'll settle things down and the Russkies won't take it as a provocation, will they? - Dope

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Remember back in the day as USSR splintered, we were convincing Ukraine to give up their nukes, no worries, we will protect you we said. That was fun...
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How not to stabilize Ukraine
Date: 11/25/2024 8:28 PM
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Remember back in the day as USSR splintered, we were convincing Ukraine to give up their nukes, no worries, we will protect you we said. That was fun...


Yes, I've seen the interview of Clinton where he talks about that. Back then a Trump wasn't contemplated. That the US wouldn't back NATO wasn't foreseen by the right wing. Our corporations and overseas trade benefit tremendously from our defense and trade Alliances. Helping Ukraine is cheap compared to a direct confrontation. But it is true that we convinced them to get rid of nukes to their detriment.

So why are y'all screwing Ukraine? They trusted you.
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