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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Umm 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump: I Would Encourage Russia...
Date: 02/12/24 10:56 PM
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"There's no doubt that if the House GOP is only offering HR 2 and nothing, there will be no border bill."

I am pretty sure that if the Democrats unconditionally attached HR 2 to funding for Ukraine and Israel, Trump would say it was a bad idea and demand the House reject it.

Trump doesn't want anything done about the border. He wants to campaign on it.

The House Republicans completely blew it. It was an historic opportunity for them to get much of what they wanted on immigration (a topic that is supposedly important to them), but they showed their commitment and loyalty to Trump is far more important than any realistic immigration solution.

The naive followers of them think that they will just be able to get a better immigration solution in January if Trump wins the White House. They do not realize that even if they control the Senate, nothing they really want is going to garner 60 votes. Heck, I am fairly sure that even if Republicans somehow held 60 seats in the Senate that even a few of the moderate Republicans would vote against a bill like HR 2 that isn't really a solution and more of a political signaling bill.

Also, the other day I heard a nutty Trump supporter say that if the bipartisan negotiated immigration bill was such a good idea, it can just be resubmitted in January and it will pass then. They fail to recognize that no Democrat would vote on the immigration bill on its own. The only reason Democrats supported it this time was because it was attached to Ukraine and Israel funding.

What is most amazing to me about the bipartisan bill is that Trump was able to so easily convince his cult that the immigration portion of the bill was a gift to the Democrats and therefore should be voted down. His cult is too stupid to even recognize that the immigration portion was a gift to Republicans, it was giving them much of what they wanted in exchange for Ukraine. To sit here and listen to Dope and BHM argue against the bipartisan immigration portion of the bill is insane.
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