Hi, Shrewd!        Login  
Shrewd'm.com 
A merry & shrewd investing community
Best Of PoliticsBest OfAll BoardsThe Shrewd’m WeeklyLearn to InvestHow to Become Shrewd
Search
Shrewd'm.com Merry shrewd investors
Search
Best Of PoliticsBest OfAll BoardsThe Shrewd’m WeeklyLearn to InvestHow to Become Shrewd


The week's question
In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
Answer this questionContinue to Shrewd'mThis note won't appear again
Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
Unthreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (203) |
Author: albaby1 SILVER
SHREWD
  😊 😞

Number: of 84362 
Subject: Re: NYC HS Students Forced....
Date: 01/10/24 8:39 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Report Post | Recommend It!
No. of Recommendations: 5
Wow, that is pretty clear and specific. Thank you for nailing this down. I wonder if the people who wrote this language knew that such abuse could result.

Not all statutes are clear and specific - this one is. Which if you look at the problem, shouldn't be all that surprising. If even the DJT Administration couldn't find a way to keep asylees from filing claims when they had crossed illegally, you have to suspect that there's a good reason why not. There had to be a pretty clear law preventing them from stopping the asylees.

Which, again, is why it's kind of foolish to blame Biden and think Trump can achieve something materially different on the issue of asylees.

This provision was drafted as part of the Refugee Act of 1980, when the overwhelming number of refugees and asylees were Vietnamese and Cambodians who were fleeing the rather indisputable horrors of the new regimes there. I suspect that the people who wrote the language might not have anticipated that it would take so long for claims to be adjudicated - or even that very many of them would need to reach immigration judges, instead of being granted by immigration agents (you don't need a judicial hearing if asylum is granted administratively). Pol Pot's regime was so murderous, and it was so clearly the position of the U.S. that the newly-created Socialist Republic of Vietnam was a horror show, that nearly all of the asylum cases would have been pretty clearly approvable and supported by the U.S. public. I don't think they anticipated that one day people would regard folks coming to the U.S. to present colorable requests for asylum and protection as "abuse."
Post New | Post Reply | Report Post | Recommend It!
Print the post
Members reply directly to albaby1 here — and replies get answered. Reading is free; so is joining the conversation. Join Shrewd'm »
This community has written 84,309 posts about US Policy. The article-length ones it recommended most:
It's going to get worse · 33 recs · 2025
G’day Donny · 30 recs · 2026
Old Related Story · 28 recs · 2026
HCR is a national treasure · 27 recs · 2025
Fascism in America · 27 recs · 2025
Unthreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (203) |


Announcements
US Policy FAQ
Contact Shrewd'm
Contact the developer of these message boards.

Best Of Politics | Best Of | Favourites & Replies | All Boards | Followed Shrewds | Open Questions | Moving a community