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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 1:24 PM
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will not be on the ballot. Many of you might not know what's required to enter into a valid loan agreement.'' The IRS mandates that any loan between family members be made with a signed written agreement, a fixed repayment schedule, and a minimum interest rate. (The IRS publishes Applicable Federal Rates (AFRs) monthly.)'' Have all the Biden's provided the documentation yet?
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 2:18 PM
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Many ways to get around that Undetected.

Hopefully the Bidens were smart enough to do it and if not, hoping their Ruling Class status gets them out of it
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Date: 11/05/2023 2:53 PM
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Many of you might not know what's required to enter into a valid loan agreement.'' The IRS mandates that any loan between family members be made with a signed written agreement, a fixed repayment schedule, and a minimum interest rate. (The IRS publishes Applicable Federal Rates (AFRs) monthly.)'' Have all the Biden's provided the documentation yet?

If it's under 10k, they don't care. If it's over 10k they look to see if it was actually a loan. What makes it look like a loan? If it gets paid back. All money represented as loans by any Biden got paid back, and not after attention was drawn to it. Therefore, it looks like a loan. If it's an extended loan they might infer interest. But the real question is, is it a disguised gift? If it gets paid back, move on.

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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 3:29 PM
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'' If it's under 10k, they don't care. If it's over 10k they look to see if it was actually a loan. '' WOW, does Santa come to your house every year too? Who generated the income to pay back, the loan ? What products or services were provided to generate, that income? Was the, income , declared on the recipients tax returns? You have no interest in the facts, let's not waste time. Have a great day.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 4:30 PM
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WOW, does Santa come to your house every year too? Who generated the income to pay back, the loan ? What products or services were provided to generate, that income? Was the, income , declared on the recipients tax returns? You have no interest in the facts, let's not waste time. Have a great day.

HC, there's no need for derision, it isn't substitute for discussion. That is the practicality of it. So I'll emphasize it. What I have seen show that checks were written for loan, and the loans were paid back. The checks indicated a loan, and then the payback checks indicated repayment of loan. You have emphasized "mandates" by the IRS. But the IRS has to go to court like everyone else, and they weigh things in the balance when they do. It is very difficult in court, when the checks say "loan" and "repayment of loan" to say it isn't a loan unless you have more. You made no mention of anything else. On the face of the original post, and what little I've had represented you have a very shallow case that I would look at you and say - what else ya got?

If you have unreported income, I'm interested - especially if it is rock solid, lay down, and not just innuendo. So present a better case other than IRS mandates that won't hold up if the loan is paid back. You haven't made a good case yet. Whatcha got?
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 5:28 PM
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hclasvegas: WOW, does Santa come to your house every year too? Who generated the income to pay back, the loan ? What products or services were provided to generate, that income? Was the, income , declared on the recipients tax returns? You have no interest in the facts, let's not waste time.

You don't have any 'facts'. You have suspicions.

Representative Comer has been up president Biden's ass since the beginning of the year and he has no facts, either. Comer has nothing more than suspicions. Comer has provided no evidence that Joe Biden did anything illegal and the loan activity occurred when Biden was out of government. You have no idea if there was a legal contract between parties and a worst case scenario is that president Biden, when he was out of office and a private citizen in 2018, loaned his brother $200,000 for 48 days but did not charge him interest. So what's the interest on a 48-day, $200,000 loan? And what kind of a fine might that oversight generate?

Meanwhile, here are some real facts:

Saint Donald has been found liable for sexual assault.

A judge ruled that Saint Donald committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House, and he ordered some of the Saint Donald's companies removed from his control and dissolved.

Saint Donald testifies under oath tomorrow in the penalty phase of that $250 million fraud suit.

Saint Donald has been indicted on 91 felonies counts.

Saint Donald said Viktor Orban is his model European leader. Orban has overseen a 20% inflation rate over the past year and Hungary has been in recession since Q3 of 2022.

Saint Donald's own vice president said: "The American people deserve to know that President Trump and his advisers didn't just ask me to pause. They asked me to reject votes, return votes, essentially to overturn the election."

Saint Donald released nearly 713,000 immigrants, or a little over 52 percent of the 1.4 million crossers, into the United States. In other words, Trump's policies resulted in far fewer removals in absolute terms and a slightly higher percentage of released border crossers than Biden's.

Saint Donald's plan to fight inflation is to raise tariffs. A lot. He has proposed slapping a 10% tariff on all imported goods and economists think he's nuts.

The list of Saint Donald nonsense is virtually endless.

So who's wasting whose time?
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 6:02 PM
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hclasvegas, why do you keep framing these political problems as reasons why Biden "won't be on the ballot?"

Biden's already on all the primary ballots (save NH) - no matter how flawed a candidate he may be, there's no way he'll be removed from the primary ballots.

Biden's running basically unopposed in the primaries - so no matter how flawed a candidate he may be, he will win the nomination. Because no one's running against him.

Again, without an opponent, there's no way the nominee is anyone but Biden. There's no mechanism for him not to get the nomination.

So why do you keep saying he won't be on the ballot, rather than saying that he won't win the election? What is the mechanism by which you think these - or any - political liabilities will keep him from securing the nomination?
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 6:36 PM
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So who's wasting whose time?

You are!
It's to the point read one of your posts and read them all. Same ol' same ol'.
You have TrumpPhobia and BidenDelusional.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 7:03 PM
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On a side note thought you would be interested in this article..

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' Former senior White House adviser for Barack Obama, David Axelrod floated the idea on Sunday of President Joe Biden dropping out of 2024 race after a new poll showed him trailing Donald Trump in several states.

A New York Times & Siena College poll released on Sunday showed Trump leading Biden in five out of the six battleground states, including Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, and Pennsylvania by leads of 3 to 10 points. The only battleground state in which Biden had a lead was Wisconsin, by 2 percentage points, according to the survey taken among registered voters.

Axelrod took to X, formerly known as Twitter, to question whether Biden should drop out of the 2024 race noting, 'It's very late to change horses; a lot will happen in the next year that no one can predict & Biden's team says his resolve to run is firm. He's defied CW before but this will send tremors of doubt thru the party'not 'bed-wetting,' but legitimate concern.'

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/only-he-can-make...

That is a really big broad HINT if you ask me....and coming from David Axelrod!
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 7:39 PM
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Prediction, ''the action of predicting something.
"the prediction of future behavior". For those who don't know what a prediction is. I'm predicting Biden will not be the Dem nominee. I doubt there are many here who can complete a thought without mentioning, trump, so let's not bother. If Biden is the nominee I was wrong, simple.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 7:51 PM
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Short of him dying (which is always possible...election is a year away), he will be the nominee. Or if he drops out of his own volition (which he shows no signs of doing). He will be the nominee. That's a given.

Trump almost certainly will be the Republican nominee, based on the polls I've seen. Unless some key states refuse to put him on their primary ballots (I think a few are trying to make that happen because of his legal problems, past and present). Which may or may not be Constitutional. I dunno.

I predict Trump v Biden next year. In which case Trump will scare enough people to show up to the polls to vote against him, just like last time.

But if Biden expires? That would be interesting. As VP, Harris is the likely successor. That would be very interesting, and a bit scary (because that would not be a slam-dunk).
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 7:55 PM
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LurkerMom: Axelrod took to X, formerly known as Twitter, to question whether Biden should drop out of the 2024 race...

Maybe someone should remind Axelrod the news articles written one-year or more out from his former boss's reelection bid:

The New York Times Magazine: "On Aug. 12, a week and a half after the debate ended in Congress, Obama's stock on Intrade, a popular political betting market, dipped below 50 percent for the first time. It has hovered just below the 50 percent threshold, usually at about 48 percent, ever since."

Harvard Gazette: "Harvard poll predicts Obama loss"

PBS: "Poll Finds Young People Skeptical of Obama's Re-election"

PR Newswire: "More Millennials Predict Obama will Lose Bid for Re-election"

PEW Research: "Obama Loses Ground in 2012 Reelection Bid"

Politico: "Poll: Most see Obama losing in 2012"

So how'd those predictions turn out?
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 8:10 PM
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Obama was 80 years old running with Harris? Seriously? https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/05/former-ob...
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Date: 11/05/2023 8:16 PM
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Maybe someone should remind Axelrod the news articles written one-year or more out from his former boss's reelection bid:

Still a big Hint from a bigwig democrat.
Obama ran against two Republicans who imo didn't stand a chance. McCain I thought ran a terrible campaign and then came Palin's gotcha question.


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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 9:11 PM
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1pg: I predict Trump v Biden next year. In which case Trump will scare enough people to show up to the polls to vote against him, just like last time.

But if Biden expires? That would be interesting. As VP, Harris is the likely successor. That would be very interesting, and a bit scary (because that would not be a slam-dunk).


I 100% agree with this assessment. HC seems to think he sees something we don't see, but won't explain what he is looking at ( hard to evaluate), so it seems to be a hunch or goat entrails.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 9:21 PM
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What's hilarious is how offended they all get when one of these threads goes up.

Why does this strike a nerve?
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/05/2023 10:19 PM
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Yes, CO, I've seen the graphs on Obama as he campaigned for the Presidency. Nothing to worry about at this point. It's as we get closer to November 2024.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/06/2023 1:18 AM
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'' HC seems to think he sees something we don't see, but won't explain what he is looking at ( hard to evaluate), so it seems to be a hunch or goat entrails.'' The Biden family , plausible deniability excuse, is no longer, plausible, with respect to its business transactions. The New York Times, msnbc, the View , etc, aren't yet covering this story? Is Google blocking out the story too? What a country, there are non so blind as those who will not see.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/06/2023 5:05 AM
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Try to find coverage of this story from msnbc, the New York Times, the Washington Post, cnn, etc. Does this sound like it might be worthy of coverage or must it be, trump, all day every day? Trump shouldn't be the nominee either, but what does that have to do with who the Dem nominee should be? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/james-biden-bank-reco...
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/06/2023 8:38 AM
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hclasvegas:Obama was 80 years old running with Harris? Seriously?

Romney was a rapist convicted of business fraud, under 91 felony indictments, who acknowledged he retains some of the nation's most sensitive intelligence documents despite a subpoena requiring their return, and who his own vice president said tried to force him to overturn a free and fair election to install him in the presidency? Seriously?

And just how young do you think Trump is, anyway?
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Date: 11/06/2023 8:51 AM
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""And just how young do you think Trump is, anyway?"" Trump should not be on the ballot either. Get well soon bud, best wishes.
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/06/2023 9:17 AM
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hclasvegas: Trump should not be on the ballot either. Get well soon bud, best wishes.

Yet every one of your posts on the 2024 presidential election is an attack on Biden. Was there a single attack on Trump?

And I'm very well, thanks.
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/06/2023 9:26 AM
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""Yet every one of your posts on the 2024 presidential election is an attack on Biden. Was there a single attack on Trump?"" Is that how this works? Liberals get to pick the Republican nominee, are you sure? Do I really need to list the reasons why trump is not the right guy to unite the country and lead us going forward? Come on man.
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/06/2023 10:04 AM
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hclasvegas: Do I really need to list the reasons why trump is not the right guy to unite the country and lead us going forward? Come on man.

If your only posts disparage Biden, then, in effect, you're supporting Trump.

Despite what you personally believe, Biden and Trump will be the nominees of their respective parties.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/06/2023 10:25 AM
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''If your only posts disparage Biden, then, in effect, you're supporting Trump. '' You are confused . Over 50 percent of Dems do not want Biden to run again. We are now all supporting trump ? This makes sense to you? Is Amy more qualified ? Don Pebbles? Jeh? Who knows, maybe the dnc will pick a smart, alert, healthy, articulate , non lifetime politician? Would that upset you?
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: One of the many reasons why Joe
Date: 11/06/2023 11:42 AM
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Your sentence is incomplete.

"Over 50 percent of Dems do not want Biden to run again, but will vote for him if he is the candidate opposing Trump."

There ya go.

Some percentage of Reps do't want Trump as their candidate, yet they will vote for him of he is the Rep candidate.

Not so hard to understand.
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