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So, Trump is the guy that the self-styled patriots admire? What kind of insanity is that?

Let's take Kelly's statement from CNN, piece by piece.

'What can I add that has not already been said?' Kelly said, calling Trump a 'person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them.''

Kelly's reference to 'being tortured as POWs' is an obvious reference to the late Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), whose war-hero status Trump publicly cast doubt upon during the 2016 campaign, saying: 'I like people that weren't captured.'

But 'suckers' and 'there is nothing in it for them' ' in quotation marks ' refer to Jeffrey Goldberg's 2020 Atlantic piece. It quoted Trump using the former word to refer to the 1,800 Marines who died at Belleau Wood in France during World War I. It also quoted him saying something similar to the latter while standing next to the grave of Kelly's own son, who was killed in Afghanistan.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/02...

Trump is a soul-less narcissist for whom everything is transactional.

'A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family ' for all Gold Star families ' on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France.'

The part about 'losers' and not wanting to visit gravesites is again confirming of the 2020 Atlantic piece, in which Trump allegedly said: 'Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers.'

The White House at the time flatly denied this. Trump himself added: 'To think that I would make statements negative to our military and fallen heroes when nobody has done what I've done' for the military was 'a total lie. ' It's a disgrace.'

A man who was present for these key events now effectively says that it not only happened, but that it happened over and over again.

'A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason ' in expectation that someone will take action.'

Again, the subtext here is striking. This refers to Trump's recent comments accusing Milley of treason. Trump added that Milley's actions were 'so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!'

Would one of you on the right please explain to me what the appeal of this most execrable little man is? He is beyond disgusting and yet the MAGA crow VENERATES him!

'A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.'
'There is nothing more that can be said,' Kelly concluded. 'God help us.'

Indeed.

Would one of you on the right please explain to me what the appeal of this most execrable little man is?

Quoting someone's opinion is moot.
But why the left continues to support the incompetent senile Biden who is leading America to its ruin is beyond all comprehension.

What's wrong with you people supporting the most incompetent bumbling old fool president in America's history?

"Would one of you on the right please explain to me what the appeal of this most execrable little man is? He is beyond disgusting and yet the MAGA crow VENERATES him!

As opposed to the Left pushing an administration with American blood on its hands from Fentanyl and criminal homicide resulting from the dereliction of its duty to protect American citizens. This country will be dealing with the results of this insanity for a generation.

boater: As opposed to the Left pushing an administration with American blood on its hands from Fentanyl...

Close to 90% of the fentanyl coming into the U.S. is seized at ports of entry. Immigration authorities say it is smuggled mostly by U.S. citizens, as well as other travelers who are legally authorized to cross. About 5% of fentanyl is backpacked across the border and virtually none is seized from migrants who are seeking asylum.

boater: ...and criminal homicide resulting from the dereliction of its duty to protect American citizens.

Compared to native-born citizens, undocumented immigrants are roughly half as likely to be arrested for homicide, felonious assault, and sexual assault. The gaps for robbery, burglary, theft, and arson are considerably larger, whereby native-born citizens are between 3 and 5 times more likely to be arrested for these criminal offenses. For most crimes, the criminality of legal immigrants tends to be less than that of native-born citizens.

Study after study has confirmed that native-born Americans commit more crimes than legal immigrants who commit more crimes than illegal immigrants.

Why dontcha tell us how the republicans' position of eliminating the FBI and the Department of Justice is going to make Americans safer.


https://www.npr.org/2023/08/07/1192557904/part-1-i....

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2014704...

Why dontcha tell us how the republicans' position of eliminating the FBI and the Department of Justice is going to make Americans safer. - CO

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By eliminating the resources used in political operations and applying them to law enforcement.

Oh, that's right. Many conservatives consider white collar crime, not a crime at all, but rather a privilege of the wealthy.

"Close to 90% of the fentanyl coming into the U.S. is seized at ports of entry."

How do you know this? Do you know how much and where all of the killer Fentynal is being is being smuggled into our country.

" Compared to native-born citizens, undocumented immigrants are roughly half as likely to be arrested for homicide, ..."

What does this have to do with anything? Even if true, we are obligated to deal with native citizens, it is insanity to allow millions of unidentified and unvetted people to casually just walk into the country.

How many terrorist related people are using this as an opportunity to infiltrate the country in preparation for further terror
activities?

Why dontcha tell us how the republicans' position of eliminating the FBI and the Department of Justice is going to make Americans safer.

Why dontcha tell us why....

'Joe Biden's Immigration Policies Are a National Security Threat

Two of Joe Biden's immigration policy reversals have even created national security risks. His decision to lessen the protection of our Southern border has allowed a massive influx of illegal aliens, drug dealers, human traffickers and, quite possibly, terrorists. And by abandoning Trump's merit-based immigration reform initiative, Biden has hobbled the U.S. in its technology race with China'something that carries undesirable economic and military consequences.

An open border is a serious national security risk

Open borders, where illegal aliens can cross with relative impunity, invite criminal activity. The flood of illegal border crossings since Biden has taken office is unprecedented. According to U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, monthly arrests at the border now number in the hundreds of thousands, a 30-year high. Criminals are among those caught at the border and then released. Many other criminals evade law enforcement at the border and enter the interior as well.

The Biden administration has adopted dramatically restrictive policies for law enforcement agencies whose mission is to remove these criminal and illegal aliens. Officers have been instructed to essentially turn a blind eye to many people who have no right to be in the country, including those who have been ordered removed by a judge. In May, deportations dropped to the lowest level on record.'

https://www.heritage.org/

As opposed to the Left pushing an administration with American blood on its hands from Fentanyl and criminal homicide resulting from the dereliction of its duty to protect American citizens.
Drugs are on both parties equally. Regardless of political affiliation, there's only so much that an administration can do within the constraints of the US Constitution.

Criminal homicide? Recognizing that people cannot be regulated prior to commission of a crime, more blood is on the hands of the right wing parties that resist any meaningful effective gun and ammo controls.

"there's only so much that an administration can do within the constraints of the US Constitution.

more blood is on the hands of the right wing parties that resist any meaningful effective gun and ammo controls."

nice deflection

nice deflection

Conflating the answers to two issues?

You're simply dishonest.

Response?

Some lame and flimsy what-about-ism from the right. That's all they've got.

Criminal homicide? Recognizing that people cannot be regulated prior to commission of a crime, more blood is on the hands of the right wing parties that resist any meaningful effective gun and ammo controls. - sano

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I think it is safe to say that Criminal Homicide is NOT the first crime one of these sociopaths commits. If there were serious consequences to the lesser crimes along the way, then most of the perps would not reach the homicidal maniac level or alternatively would be in prison rather than out on the streets. When someone with 60 crimes on his rap sheet is out and about and kills someone, the fault is not on lack of gun laws.

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Fatal Downtown Shooting Suspect had Long Rap Sheet
October 2, 2023
Nick Hill

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. (WDEF) ' We are learning more about the suspect in a murder of a prominent Chattanooga businessman.

On late Thursday night, Christopher Wright was shot and killed near Patten Towers.

On Friday, Chattanooga Police arrested 57-year-old Darryl Roberts in connection with the shooting.
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That's when the affidavit says one of the men in a red shirt and dark pants produced a gun, walked up to Wright, put a gun up to his head and shot him.
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Among the over 60 charges and convictions listed in Court records, some of the most serious include:

6 counts of assault over that 30-year time period that were bound over to federal courts or Roberts pleaded guilty.
A conviction on aggravated robbery in 2000 where Roberts pleaded guilty.
Three separate DUI charges, one which resulted in a conviction in 2017.
16 different theft charges varying in amount stolen resulting mostly in misdemeanor convictions.
Four separate drug possession charges including the aforementioned crack cocaine conviction in 1993.

LurkerMom: What's wrong with you people supporting the most incompetent bumbling old fool president in America's history?

We've gone over this time and time again but reality never penetrates the Trump Cult's bubble.

We're content with a president of average intelligence who has been reasonably successful:

1. Addressed the COVID-19 pandemic through the American Rescue Plan bill which cut child poverty rates in half, got shots in arms, and used the Defense Production Act to produce personal protective equipment.

2. Actually passed a bipartisan Infrastructure Bill that Trump had promised, but failed, to pass, a historic investment in the country's infrastructure, including new funding for water pipes, trains, roads, and high-speed internet.

3. Delivered the Inflation Reduction Act, which contained $485 billion in spending and $790 billion in offsets that would cover that spending. The legislation includes a substantial investment in clean energy tax credits, as well as a new policy that enables Medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices.

4. The CHIPS Act bolsters domestic semiconductor manufacturing, and contains measures to subsidize or expand new facilities.

5. Got the first bipartisan gun safety bill in decades which included funding for states to implement "red flag" laws, more screening for gun buyers under 21, and a crackdown on illegal guns.


Biden also restored and expanded Obamacare; increased access to VA care beyond 5-year eligibility for combat veterans; reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act; rejoined the Paris climate agreement; and provided student loan forgiveness.

But, no, he's not perfect. Biden has verbal tics and makes verbal gaffes but the claim that he's a bumbling old fool is ludicrous.

Trump makes more incorrect and idiotic statements in a single speech than Biden makes in six months (Trump just claimed he defeated Obama in 2016, confused Jeb with George W, suggested battery-powered boats would lead to electrocution, promoted dampening forest floors, and claimed that windmills kill whales).

The fact that Trump removed and retained many of the nation's most top secret documents -- and lied about having them and then obstructed their return -- should have been enough to have conservatives abandon him en masse. Add in his refusing to take any action at all as the Capitol was attacked -- as his own senators and representatives were calling the White House seeking his help, pleading with his staffers to get him to send the rioters home -- and he should have no support at all anymore.

But as is demonstrated on this board everyday, the cult is too far gone down Delusion Road.

But as is demonstrated on this board everyday, the cult is too far gone down Delusion Road.

Apparently nothing bumbling biden has done is actually working, as proof right before OUR eyes, America is going to hell..
Crime, drugs, human trafficking, store closing, cities overrun by illegal aliens..the list goes on.
The left supports all this because biden has instructed the left to shut up and follow orders.

"Criminal homicide? Recognizing that people cannot be regulated prior to commission of a crime, more blood is on the hands of the right wing parties that resist any meaningful effective gun and ammo controls."

What is dishonest is pretending that this administration is making any effort to screen these people in regard to their potential for crime or anything else for that matter.

What's wrong with you people supporting the most incompetent bumbling old fool president in America's history?


Wake up. Please!!!

But as is demonstrated on this board everyday, the cult is too far gone down Delusion Road.

I'll bet LM is back to thinking there are no illegal immigrants in Dairy/Meat and they take care of their own.

LurkerMom: What's wrong with you people supporting the most incompetent bumbling old fool president in America's history?


Your posts/responses are comically silly and meaningless. You have nothing.

The left supports all this because biden has instructed the left to shut up and follow orders.


Oh. The bumbling senile old fool who cannot accomplish ANYthing is able to get the entire left wing of his party to shut up and follow orders? You want it both ways.

Crime, drugs, human trafficking, store closing, cities overrun by illegal aliens..the list goes on.

What world do you live in? Must be scary. You might try moving to the real world.

Crime is near historic lows.

Stores close all the time.

"Overrun"?? I already provided data that it's approximately the same as it has always been (for at least the past 30 years).

I have no data on human trafficking in this country. Care to share a credible link?

The left supports all this because biden has instructed the left to shut up and follow orders.

Follow orders? That's a laugh. The Democrat Party is notorious (since the days of Will Rogers and his famous quote) for being compared to herding cats. Republicans are much more likely to march in lock-step than Dems. Though maybe that is changing...both Boehner and McCarthy had issues keeping their party under control. Perhaps they're finally fracturing, after decades of obstinate unity.

... the fault is not on lack of gun laws.

How did you conclude that my suggestions would not have prevented your criminal from possessing the weapon he had?

How do you conclude your guy's gun wasn't stolen from an unlocked car?

Sure, maybe your anecdotal guy would have still acquired a gun, but 1259 were stolen from Tennessee cars in 2021 and nearly a thousand more guns ended up in the hands of Tennessee criminals due to lax storage regs last year.

Maybe your guy had one of the 985 guns stolen from cars cited below.

https://www.local3news.com ' local-news ' tennessee-leads-the-nation-in-most-stolen-guns-from-cars ' article_964372fc-abe4-11ed-a8da-57e482d10410.html

Tennessee leads the nation in most stolen guns from cars
Updated Feb 16, 2023. Tennessee is leading the nation when it comes to guns stolen from cars. The Chattanooga Police Department said there were 985 guns stolen in 2022. So far this year, 122 have been stolen. The Tennessee of Bureau of Investigation reports Tennessee is leading the nation when it comes to guns stolen from cars.

What is dishonest is pretending that this administration is making any effort to screen these people in regard to their potential for crime or anything else for that matter.

There's this thing called the Constitution. I'm pretty sure that people who have done nothing wrong cannot be screened for something they may or may not do in the future.

In any event, people who do have a mark on their records have no problem acquiring one of the many thousands of unsecured guns that are stolen every month from homes and cars. A simple regulation requiring effective storage would substantially reduce the number of guns available to people who can't buy one from an FFL.

But you knew that.

"The FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, which compiles crime stats submitted by 15,875 of 18,674 U.S. law enforcement agencies around the country, estimates that more than $135 million worth of firearms were reported stolen by gun owners in 2020, the most recent year data is available. If we say each gun was valued at about $450 each (the Bureau of Justice Statistics estimates the average price per stolen gun is between $400 and $500), that comes out to about 300,394 guns reported stolen from private owners in 2020.

In a 2017 survey of gun owners, Azrael and her colleagues arrived at a higher figure for guns reported missing each year, around 380,000."

"There's this thing called the Constitution. I'm pretty sure that people who have done nothing wrong cannot be screened for something they may or may not do in the future."

Wrong yet again. In a ..legal..orderly immigration program people are vetted in their home country before they are accepted for ... Legal ...immigration.

Apparently you didn't know that.

What world do you live in? Must be scary. You might try moving to the real world.

Crime is near historic lows.

Stores close all the time.

"Overrun"?? I already provided data that it's approximately the same as it has always been (for at least the past 30 years).

Perhaps you haven't noticed what is happening in your own state....

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'As of 2021, Arizona has 29.36 reported crimes per 1,000 residents, a rate that is much higher than the U.S. average. The state ranks as the 10th most dangerous in the country.

However, even when you account for the larger-than-average number of residents, Arizona crime rates are still high. With crime rates significantly higher than national crime rates, people living in Arizona are more likely to encounter crime than residents of most other states.'

https://www.vivint.com/resources/article/what-is-t...

Apparently the world I live in is safer than Arizona.

In a ..legal..orderly immigration program...

Yeah, I've been saying we should get one of those. We mostly don't have one, unless you're on a fiance visa. That one works relatively smoothly. Or an H1B, which corporations make sure run smoothly. Otherwise, it's a mess.

Irrelevant. Biden is POTUS. That is not a state office. Crime in AZ (or any other state) results from a large combination of factors. Nationally, crime rates are near all-time lows.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/10/31...

When you and I were kids, the country was a lot more dangerous (in terms of crime).

When you and I were kids, the country was a lot more dangerous (in terms of crime).

Dem talking points again?

>>... the fault is not on lack of gun laws.<<

How did you conclude that my suggestions would not have prevented your criminal from possessing the weapon he had? - sano

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How did you conclude that my suggestion that applying some serious consequences to his escalating criminal behavior along the way would not have prevented him from being on the street to commit his homicide?

A simple regulation requiring effective storage would substantially reduce the number of guns available to people who can't buy one from an FFL. - sano

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Wow, a law, what an obvious solution. Simple and elegant. How about a law making it illegal for a felon to possess a weapon, stolen or otherwise.

Perhaps you haven't noticed what is happening in your own state....

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'As of 2021, Arizona has 29.36 reported crimes per 1,000 residents, a rate that is much higher than the U.S. average. The state ranks as the 10th most dangerous in the country. https://www.vivint.com/resources/article/what-is-t...


What a scoop (I say sarcastically). vivint.com is not an information source, but is a home security company, as well as one that has been successfully sued for deceptive sales practices. The more dangerous they paint life in Arizona, the more they hope that will get them business there.
https://www.securitysystemsnews.com/article/cpi-se....

In reality, "While all cities and states have their crime problems, Arizona has a much lower rate for all crimes than many other areas of the nation. The average number of violent crimes per 1,000 people is just under 5 for the whole of the US. Arizona's average (in cities) is less than half that, at 1.7 per thousand."

https://www.thehonestlocal.com/living-in-arizona-m....

When you and I were kids, the country was a lot more dangerous (in terms of crime).
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Dem talking points again?


Nope. Just reality.

No. Data.

Data is all that matters when talking about this sort of thing.

"There's this thing called the Constitution. I'm pretty sure that people who have done nothing wrong cannot be screened for something they may or may not do in the future."

Wrong yet again. In a ..legal..orderly immigration program people are vetted in their home country before they are accepted for ... Legal ...immigration.

I was responding to Mike's example involving an American criminal in Tennessee with a list of crimes as long as Trump's charges.

Apparently you didn't know that.

"I was responding to Mike's example involving an American criminal in Tennessee with a list of crimes as long as Trump's charges.

Apparently you didn't know that."

you are right, I didn't know that given it came in as a response to my post. Next time you really should respond to the poster that is dealing with the topic that you are attempting to address. Good luck

How did you conclude that my suggestion that applying some serious consequences to his escalating criminal behavior along the way would not have prevented him from being on the street to commit his homicide?

I did not conclude that. I agree that locking him up is a sure thing while he's locked up. If we locked up everybody with a violent conviction the incarceration expense would rival, if not exceed, the military budget. It would be more cost effective to go biblical; simply amputate the hands of violent people. I was thinking a few fingers because how could the perp handle ammo; right? But my wife says stump'em at the wrist so they cannot bludgeon women with baseball bats.


I merely suggested that if firearms were WELL REGULATED, that may have prevented your guy from obtaining a gun that may very easily have been stolen.

How about a law making it illegal for a felon to possess a weapon, stolen or otherwise.

I believe that already exists.

It works about as well as Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No."

The ATF found that 54% of traced crime guns were recovered by law enforcement more than three years after their purchase. Those guns were legally purchased, but were later used in crimes, the report indicated.

"Crime guns may change hands a number of times after that first retail sale, and some of those transactions may be a theft or violate one or more regulations on firearm commerce," the ATF's report reflected.

Gun theft should be substantially reduced if safe storage laws were enacted. Of course, that's assuming most gun owners are law-abiding.

I did not conclude that. I agree that locking him up is a sure thing while he's locked up. - sano

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Would you agree that getting locked up a few times while you are in your formative years and committing relatively less violent crimes, might steer you away from a life of more serious crimes. Ok, so we do that for his first ten felonies and it doesn't seem to be helping. So we get a little harsher for his next ten. But by the time he reaches thirty or forty, I say he has shown he is irredeemable and so forfeits his right to live among the innocent population. If a life sentence will prevent his next twenty felonies, that is a good trade off. Plus this may produce a deterrent affect on his criminal buddies who are still working on their first ten felonies.

sano: I believe that already exists.

And is being struck down in the appeals courts since the Supreme Court ruled that a gun law passes legal muster only if it is "rooted in history and tradition." Felons were not prohibited from owning guns by the Founding Fathers (nor by the Second and Fourteenth Amendments), so forgetaboutit.

In addition, the venerable 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals invalidated a federal law that bars an individual who is subject to a domestic violence restraining order from possessing a firearm. That law, the 5th US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled, "is an outlier that our ancestors would never have accepted." The US Supreme Court has agreed to hear that case this year so you can probably kiss that law goodbye too. You wouldn't want to take guns out of the hands of wife beaters, now would ya'?

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

bighairymike: Would you agree that getting locked up a few times while you are in your formative years and committing relatively less violent crimes, might steer you away from a life of more serious crimes.

Just the opposite.

The highest juvenile recidivism rates were 76% within three years and 84% within five years. A study by Joseph Doyle, a researcher at the Massachusetts Institute for Technology, found that 40% of juvenile offenders ended up in adult prison for crimes committed by the time they reached the age of 25. The study involved data from 30,000 juvenile offenders in Illinois.

Incarceration also retailed the juveniles' education. Doyle told Boston Magazine that he was surprised by "the size of the effects. We found that when kids went into juvenile detention, they were very unlikely to return to high school at all. Basically, none of them are graduating high school."

https://online.pointpark.edu/criminal-justice/juve...

applying some serious consequences to his escalating criminal behavior...
This is absolutely what needs to happen. However, what might be a serious consequence for you might actually be a reward for some kids. In the old days we certainly had some ways of applying consequences that would be serious for anybody, but most of those were found to induce significant trauma which resulted in additional problems. I don't see this as a simple problem, but certainly one that when a few of the appropriate resources are applied can be solved. It is not a one size fits all problem and each case needs to be handled individually, which takes a lot of resources.
Alan

applying some serious consequences to his escalating criminal behavior...
This is absolutely what needs to happen. However, what might be a serious consequence for you might actually be a reward for some kids. In the old days we certainly had some ways of applying consequences that would be serious for anybody, but most of those were found to induce significant trauma which resulted in additional problems. I don't see this as a simple problem, but certainly one that when a few of the appropriate resources are applied can be solved. It is not a one size fits all problem and each case needs to be handled individually, which takes a lot of resources.
Alan

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How about this, for every felony conviction after your first ten, it is an automatic 20 year no parole prison sentence. These sociopaths would not live long enough to commit more than 24 or 25 felonies, an improvement over today's limit of unlimited. Sort of kidding here but my point is, at some point a repeat offender should forfeit his right to live among us. That would put a cap on how many victims a given felon could produce.

Would you agree that getting locked up a few times while you are in your formative years and committing relatively less violent crimes, might steer you away from a life of more serious crimes.

I'm no criminologist so it would be lame for me to speculate.

However:
I have read that being incarcerated merely teaches some criminals how to be more successful (efficient?) criminals.

I've read that recidivism rates are substantial.

My DA relatives have spoken frequently about3 strikes system failures.

So... I would disagree with your premise unless you back it up with solid data that refutes what I've read and heard from my DA relatives.

I've read that recidivism rates are substantial. - sano

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Could that be related to slap on the wrist type punishment or no punishment at all, or no cash bail for new cries perpetrated by someone with ten or twenty priors?

Seriously, if it was well known and a certainty that your eleventh felony was a minimum twenty year sentence, you don't think that would produce a drop in recidivism. I will grant you, it may not stop a perp from committing felony number 11, but you won't see number 12 by him for twenty years. That alone would save a lot of victims from experiencing the crimes he otherwise would continue to commit.
You apparently feel sorry or sympathy for the hapless felon. I do too, up to a point, but after ten, I think you loose your right to be out, preying on the law abiding.

Seriously, if it was well known and a certainty that your eleventh felony was a minimum twenty year sentence, you don't think that would produce a drop in recidivism.

Assumes repeat offenders are rational actors. Many are not. They are afflicted with chronic issues, much like Trump.

You apparently feel sorry or sympathy for the hapless felon.

Not a chance. I don't pretend to know the solution, much less know if there is a solution, to bad guys in a country with a Constitution that protects liars and thieves.

<<Seriously, if it was well known and a certainty that your eleventh felony was a minimum twenty year sentence, you don't think that would produce a drop in recidivism.<<

Assumes repeat offenders are rational actors. Many are not. They are afflicted with chronic issues, much like Trump. = sano

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You are overlooking the fact that under the BHM recidivism reduction program, there would be a twenty year time out between the perps 11th felony and his next opportunity to commit another crime.

BTW, nice working Trump into the conversation. It's a talent.

Sano:
"Crime guns may change hands a number of times after that first retail sale, and some of those transactions may be a theft or violate one or more regulations on firearm commerce," the ATF's report reflected.

Gun theft should be substantially reduced if safe storage laws were enacted. Of course, that's assuming most gun owners are law-abiding.

That's why I advocate for tax credits for guns safes, and safes in cars. I large chunk of handguns are stolen out of cars. We have to start somewhere, and yes, we know they will move to other areas if we successfully hinder that one. But let's be successful first.

You are overlooking the fact that under the BHM recidivism reduction program, there would be a twenty year time out between the perps 11th felony and his next opportunity to commit another crime.

Obviously that's one possibility. Another, the captive perp could become an inside player for one criminal org or another.

BHM: Could that be related to slap on the wrist type punishment or no punishment at all, or no cash bail for new cries perpetrated by someone with ten or twenty priors?

It's because our society is really not easy for those who've been to prison. If you want to improve a prisoner's chances substantially of not going back in, give him $500 to $800 a month for two years I've read.

https://dworakpeck.usc.edu/news/ensuring-financial...

Teach them, and teach them some basic financial literacy - finances screw them up.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/00938...

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