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Author: 38Packard   😊 😞
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Subject: Up 29% this Morning!!!
Date: 02/02/2023 10:49 AM
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... on this news....

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230202005...

Would this announcement make that much difference? How many folks here think there may be some insider info going on? (Insider knowledge that I'm not privy to for sure).

'38Packard

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Author: BenSolar   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Up 29% this Morning!!!
Date: 02/02/2023 4:02 PM
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Yeah, what a spike! It's moderated to only 18-19% now, but still, remarkable. The announcement of NBKC community bank joining Upstart doesn't seem at all significant enough to cause such exuberance. I think it's just one factor of several, and the NBKC addition just a minor factor.

The biggest factor is probably just exuberant buying of tech stocks in general today. UPST isn't the only one: META is up ~22%, Google 7%, etc ...

Upstart is probably more specifically benefiting from fears of inflation and recession dropping with recent reports and Fed actions. When interest rates level out and then start dropping, Upstart's prospects vastly improve, and it seems we're nearing peak short term interest rates if we haven't already hit them.

I suppose the market is also rewarding Upstart's moves to reduce expenses significantly by cutting staff. It shows they care about reducing cash burn and aren't pursuing a crazy growth at any cost strategy that might end up in bankruptcy.

To illustrate that the bank signing is a minor factor, just compare market action a couple months ago when Upstart announced that Carver Federal Savings Bank was a now a partner. UPST was down that day, and continued down for a month. Carver absolutely dwarfs NBKC in size, though, with assets of $1.7 trillion, compared to NBKC assets of a little over $1 billion.
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Author: FlyingCircus   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Up 29% this Morning!!!
Date: 02/02/2023 10:00 PM
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This.
biggest factor is probably just exuberant buying of tech stocks in general today.

MASSIVE amount short squeezing and unwinding of hedges against the Fed being nasty yesterday - which they weren't.
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Author: luxmain   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Up 29% this Morning!!!
Date: 02/03/2023 8:26 AM
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It literally has UP in the name. How many more hints from the Simulation Programmers do you need?

:-)

lux
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Author: Aguila   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Up 29% this Morning!!!
Date: 02/03/2023 3:30 PM
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Probably just short covering. Seeking Alpha shows 36.6% short interest.
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Author: 5thhorseman   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Up 29% this Morning!!!
Date: 02/03/2023 6:55 PM
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There's also a new loan securitization.

See the thread on Dreamers board on the old site:

https://discussion.fool.com/t/a-new-upst-loan-secu...
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Author: BenSolar   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Up 29% this Morning!!!
Date: 02/04/2023 12:48 PM
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There's also a new loan securitization.

See the thread on Dreamers board on the old site: https://discussion.fool.com/t/a-new-upst-loan-secu...


Thank you for the link, 5thhorseman.

Yeah, in the last earnings conference call, one of Upstart's managers mentioned that they had continued to sell bundles of loans on the secondary market last year and they fully expected that to continue in the near future, so this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Still, a $193 million securitization of loans on the book will make a big dent in the loans on the book and will greatly improve their liquidity.

With short term interest rates leveling out, the value of the loans on the books will stabilize and will have a better market for resale in a bundle, both of which are great news for Upstart. Hopefully this recent sale already benefited from this change in interest rate trends.
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