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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/02/2024 9:13 AM
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LOL.

Remember Trump's response when asked to share his favorite verses?

But when asked Wednesday on Bloomberg’s “With All Due Respect” to share his favorite verses, Trump, a Presbyterian, was not as direct.

“I wouldn’t want to get into it. Because to me, that’s very personal,” he said. “The Bible means a lot to me, but I don’t want to get into specifics.”


No, he just didn't want to get into 'specifics'. How can so-called Christians see this immoral liar as their chosen one?

"The Bible means a lot to me". Translation: "It gives me a way to manipulate the rubes I make fun of in private". Gad, he is awful in every way a man can be. And what kind of fool supports this execrable jerk?
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/02/2024 9:53 AM
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"The Bible means a lot to me". Translation: "It gives me a way to manipulate the rubes I make fun of in private". Gad, he is awful in every way a man can be. And what kind of fool supports this execrable jerk?

You condemn President Trump when he speaks of his faith and now you condemn President Trump he prefers to remain silent about his religious beliefs.

President Trump champions the life of a viable child in the womb and its right to be born,
whereas Biden advocates abortion.

“Cardinal Wilton Gregory of Washington, D.C., likened President Joe Biden to a "cafeteria Catholic" who is "sincere" in his faith but ignores some of its teachings as do "a number of other Catholics."

The Catholic Religion does not support abortion on demand.
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Author: weatherman   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/02/2024 10:10 AM
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hilarious, another question where trump obviously has no fake answer memorized. it's also been shown to be a waste of time asking him anything on STEM.

trump is pretty good at changing the subject when there is no media softball to keep blabbering on.
another recent media encounter was when a reporter asked why trump has not spent any of his own money on campaigning since the initial 2016 kickstart (which was for certain just a publicity stunt, as all his prior announcements for presidency).
yet, every court event has him talking about all HIS money he will spend, or is being diverted from spending, on the campaign.

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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/02/2024 11:12 AM
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And what kind of fool supports this execrable jerk? - ges

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One who wants a secure border perhaps?

bhm, just trying to be helpful
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/02/2024 7:50 PM
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LurkerMom: President Trump champions the life of a viable child in the womb and its right to be born, whereas Biden advocates abortion.

I see you made your statement conditional, requiring viability, so I guess I'll swat that hornet's nest.

Viability is about 24 weeks. So you're saying that Trump advocates abortions prior to 24 weeks, then.

Then Biden and Trump aren't really much different.

According to the data, about 99.1 percent of all abortions were performed at 21 weeks or earlier (93.5% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions, 5.7%, were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation).

The CDC estimates that 0.9% of abortions were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation. Another study put the number of abortions performed after 24 weeks at 0.02%.

Of those, it's hard to imagine that many third-trimester abortions are not medically necessary. What is the logic in carrying a fetus for six months only to decide to abort it unless the fetus is no longer viable, the mother's health or ability to have future pregnancies is at risk? A 2022 study of patients seeking abortions later in pregnancy found that they fell into two categories: either they had learned new information about their pregnancies that made them no longer desirable, such as the emergence of serious fetal or their own health issue; or experiencing barriers to abortion services during the pregnancy.

Today, Trump wrote a Truth Social message talking about bans at "6 weeks, 10 weeks, 15 weeks, or whatever".

When asked at his Wisconsin rally today if he supported Florida's 6-week ban, he refused to answer. But since he keeps patting himself on the back for ending abortion, he'll have to come up with a better answer than "we'll have an answer in a week".

With Trump, that tends to mean never.

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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/02/2024 8:57 PM
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I hate the limits on abortions because they are brainless. Consider a woman 6 months along. She almost certainly wanted it or she would have taken steps much earlier. Therefore, something happened to change her calculus. Time limit legislation can't account for all the possibilities, and doesn't even try. Which is why it will always be bad legislation.

The issue is far too complex to leave to legislators. It should be left to the woman and her doctor.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/02/2024 9:50 PM
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Viability is about 24 weeks.

Says you?

The Alabama Supreme Court ruled that embryos are ‘children’.

What Trump has to say or not at a rally about Florida’s six week ban is not the time or place to
get into this discussion. I’m sure President Trump will pick his time and place to answer such
questions when he can speak on the subject at length, not at the fly of the moment answer.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/03/2024 4:51 AM
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Viability isn't determined by courts. It's determined by science. Specifically, biology.

An entire is not viable outside the womb. The 24 weeks number is outside the womb.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/03/2024 4:52 AM
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An embryo isn't viable outside the womb...

Autocorrect strikes again
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump the Christian
Date: 04/03/2024 10:24 AM
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I hate the limits on abortions because they are brainless. Consider a woman 6 months along. She almost certainly wanted it or she would have taken steps much earlier. Therefore, something happened to change her calculus. Time limit legislation can't account for all the possibilities, and doesn't even try. Which is why it will always be bad legislation.

The issue is far too complex to leave to legislators. It should be left to the woman and her doctor
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And they are deceptive. When they talk about weeks in pregnancy, you'd think they'd have a standard way of calculating the moment of conception, but they don't. What they use as a starting point is the day before your last period. This couldn't possibly be the day of conception because you have a period right after that. And IIRC, the high point of ovulation ( best time for pregnancy) starts about 2.5 weeks after that for ~3 days. So you are around 2.5 to 3 weeks into your pregnancy when conception occurs - normally.

When does a woman normally find out she's pregnant? After she misses her period, which would would be about 30 days into he pregnancy b this deceptive method. This is all from memory, but when someone says sis weeks into a pregnancy, that's about the earliest she's finding out. We should think three months plus 2.5 weeks at least.
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