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In a court filing, the King Donald administration admitted they grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador... but too bad, so sad they ain't going to get him released.

But in Monday’s court filing, attorneys for the government admitted that the Salvadoran man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, had been deported accidentally. “Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government told the court. Trump lawyers said the court has no ability to bring Abrego Garcia back now that he is in Salvadoran custody.

Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, Abrego Garcia’s attorney, said he’s never seen a case in which the government knowingly deported someone who had already received protected legal status from an immigration judge. He is asking the court to order the Trump administration to ask for Abrego Garcia’s return and, if necessary, to withhold payment to the Salvadoran government, which says it’s charging the United States $6 million a year to jail U.S. deportees.

Trump-administration attorneys told the court to dismiss the request on multiple grounds, including that Trump’s “primacy in foreign affairs” outweighs the interests of Abrego Garcia and his family.

Well, I did Nazi that coming.

Just kidding. I did see that coming.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/...

In a court filing, the King Donald administration admitted they grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador... but too bad, so sad they ain't going to get him released.

Which is why we have rules requiring due process be provided, and why the government is doing a bad thing by disappearing people without giving them a chance to argue to a judge that the government is mistaken.

Yes, we want government in charge of more of our lives. They won't abuse power. No way.

Hmm. They finally found 1! A guy they can claim was wrongly deported.

Or did they? Turns out...nope. They got taken by The Atlantic again. That's what...twice in 2 weeks?

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscour...
On March 29, 2019, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) served AbregoGarcia with a Notice to Appear, charging him as inadmissible pursuant to Section
1182(a)(6)(A)(i) of Title 8 of the United States Code, “as an alien present in the United States
without being admitted or paroled, or who arrived in the United States at any time or place other
than as designated by the [Secretary of Homeland Security].”
8. During the course of his proceedings, Abrego-Garcia remained in ICE custody
because the Immigration Judge (IJ) with the Executive Office for Immigration Review denied
Abrego-Garcia bond at a hearing on April 24, 2019, citing danger to the community because “the
evidence show[ed] that he is a verified member of [Mara Salvatrucha] (‘MS-13’)]” and therefore
posed a danger to the community. The IJ also determined that he was a flight risk. Abrego-Garcia
appealed, and the Board of Immigration Appeals upheld this bond decision in an opinion issued
on December 19, 2019, citing the danger Abrego-Garcia posed to the community.

Whoops. 2019.

He's MS-13, an illegal, and got due process already.

Here's the part the libs missed. All the prior judge said was, 'you can't remand this guy to El Salvador'. The judge did not say you can't throw him out.

Lib grade? Fail.
On October 10, 2019, an IJ ordered Abrego-Garcia’s removal from the United
States but granted withholding of removal to El Salvador pursuant to 8 U.S.C. § 1231(b)(3)(A).
This grant of protection prohibited his removal to El Salvador.

They can take their NaziNaziHitlerPutin stuff and shove it.

The government wasn't mistaken.

Any 'mistake' was that they shipped this guy to the wrong address.

Here's the part the libs missed. All the prior judge said was, 'you can't remand this guy to El Salvador'. The judge did not say you can't throw him out.

But then they did remand this guy to El Salvador. In violation of the order of the prior judge. Which could have been avoided, if they had provided these folks with time and an opportunity to alert a court - or even the government itself - of the fact that a mistake was being made. Which is why a nation concerned with following the rule of law doesn't conduct their affairs this way.

If you move fast, you might break things - including a judge's prior order.

The government wasn't mistaken.

Any 'mistake' was that they shipped this guy to the wrong address.

In violation of the ruling entered in the legal proceeding finding that sending him to this specific country would violate the requirements of federal law.

So, yeah - they were mistaken.

But then they did remand this guy to El Salvador. In violation of the order of the prior judge.

Which is a VASTLY different goof-up than the Nazi-calling OP moron said, isn't it?

Which could have been avoided, if they had provided these folks with time and an opportunity to alert a court - or even the government itself - of the fact that a mistake was being made. Which is why a nation concerned with following the rule of law doesn't conduct their affairs this way.

They fouled up the paperwork on this guy, nothing more. This isn't the grand OMG TRUMP REALLY IS A FASCIST YOU GUYS hill that you want to die on.

If you move fast, you might break things - including a judge's prior order.

Sorry, I'm not shedding any tears for this guy, who was described as a danger to his community.

In violation of the ruling entered in the legal proceeding finding that sending him to this specific country would violate the requirements of federal law.


You sure you want to do this?

Sorry, I'm not shedding any tears for this guy, who was described as a danger to his community.

You should. The reason we provide due process for bad guys isn't to benefit the bad guys. It's mostly so that when the government is doing something wrong to good guys by mistake, it's available for them, too. It's also because providing due process is the sign of being one of the just nations - it benefits all of us when we provide a fair system to even the worst among us.

Finally, the fact that they got this wrong - even though it was literally in his file and known to the government - should cause you to at least question whether they got every single other case right. That every one of those folks they disappeared into El Salvador was, in fact, an actual gang member that posed a danger to their community. That there were no cases of mistaken identity, or inadequate evidence, or administrative mistakes.

Dope1: Which is a VASTLY different goof-up than the Nazi-calling OP moron said, isn't it? ... They fouled up the paperwork on this guy, nothing more.

Umm, it's right there in the Atlantic article: ...ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador...

They knew there was a court order against his removal but defied the order anyway. That sure sounds like some fascist shit, now doesn't it?

Dope1: Sorry, I'm not shedding any tears for this guy, who was described as a danger to his community.

Well, it's just as likely that someone could describe you as "a danger to his community" but that doesn't make it so. Habeus corpus is for everyone or it's for no one. You pick, genius.

You should.

No, I won't. Especially not when board members are arguing in support of this Nazi crap. This is not that and you know better.

You're furiously digging up the goalposts and moving them all over the place. You guys have been banging the drum that Trump's black vans are just rolling up and snatching people off the street randomly just because of their tattoos with NO due process whatsoever.

That's clearly not true in this case. In fact, it's exactly the opposite. This guy

-Is an illegal
-Is a member of an international criminal gang
-Got his day in court
-Was found to be a flight risk and a danger to his community

The prior judge said, "Go ahead and throw him out". They just threw him out to the wrong country. Fine. Drive his a$$ over a border or two to Guatemala or something.

But again, ChatNPC can ram his Nazi stuff up sideways.

The government wasn't mistaken.

Any 'mistake' was that they shipped this guy to the wrong address.

What a cute way to frame this gross injustice.

Dope1: Sorry, I'm not shedding any tears for this guy, who was described as a danger to his community.

You really are sounding more fascistic all the time. In the 1930's there was a group of people in Germany who were a 'danger to the community'.

Fine. Drive his a$$ over a border or two to Guatemala or something.

But they can't. Because they didn't afford him any opportunity to point out that what the government was actually doing violated the terms of the prior rulings....which were issued because deporting him to El Salvador would have violated federal law.

So because they didn't bother to allow any process that would have caught the violation before deporting him, they now have no way of correcting it. He's out of our jurisdiction. Which, again, is why just countries don't do this.

This case should make you more worried about what's going on here, not less. Because this was the easiest mistake to avoid. The prior ruling was in his file; there's no evidence that the ruling was lost or misplaced or not recorded. Even the simplest, most cursory review of his records would have indicated that he should not have been put on that plane - but they did it anyway. The easiest mistake not to make.

So this should make you less comfortable that the government got the harder judgment calls right - that all those people who were disappeared based on eyeballing their tattoos or informants or whatever were all correctly identified. This mistake should make you worry that this operation was not overly concerned with getting the details right, but prioritized speed and numbers over being accurate. If these guys can't be trusted to get the answer right in a case where the answer is written down for them in the file, you shouldn't trust them to have gotten all their gang identifications right, either.

Which, again, is why we have the rule of law and due process - so that someone is checking their work to make sure mistakes don't happen. The fact that they made a mistake on an easier case, rather than the other types of cases that people are very worried about, shouldn't make you more comfortable. It should make you angry and upset at your government.

What a cute way to frame this gross injustice.

What an incredibly stupid way to frame this gross injustice.

Fixed that for ya!

So this should make you less comfortable that the government got the harder judgment calls right - that all those people who were disappeared based on eyeballing their tattoos or informants or whatever were all correctly identified.

I wonder how Dope would feel if someone incorrectly suggested that he was a member of MS-13, and then ICE showed up on his doorstep. Would he want a court to hear his case, or would it be OK to simply deport him without a hearing.

--Peter

I wonder how Dope would feel if someone incorrectly suggested that he was a member of MS-13,

Except this guy IS MS-13.
Read the court filing.

Or...stay uninformed. It's a chic choice among leftists.

Except this guy IS MS-13.

So said an unidentified informant.

Dope, we have an unidentified informant who has fingered you as an active member of MS-13.

So said an unidentified informant.

Uh, huh. The judge said he was a flight risk and a danger to his community.

Dope1: Except this guy IS MS-13.
Read the court filing.

Give this some thought: Abrego Garcia came to the United States at age 16 in 2011 after fleeing gang threats in his native El Salvador. He is married to a U.S. citizen, has a 5-year-old disabled child who is also a U.S. citizen, and despite the allegation he is an active member of MS-13 he has no criminal record in the United States. None. He's lived here fourteen years with an arrest.

His attorney said that the allegations Abrego Garcia was a gang member stem from a 2019 incident when Abrego Garcia and three other men were detained in a Home Depot parking lot by a police detective in Prince George’s County, Maryland. During questioning, one of the men told officers that Abrego Garcia was a gang member, but the man offered no proof and police said they didn’t believe him, filings show. Police did not identify him as a gang member.

There was nothing there but they turned him over to ICE.

According to the court filing, in deportation proceedings the government claimed that a reliable informant had identified him as a ranking member of MS-13. Abrego Garcia and his family hired an attorney and fought the government’s attempt to deport him. He received “withholding of removal” six months later, a protected status, and has been free to terrorize his community since early 2020.

Since then, he has not been arrested, not committed any crimes, and has had no contact with any law-enforcement agency. He works full-time, has complied with requirements to check in annually with ICE, and cares for his 5-year-old son, who has autism and a hearing defect.

Now, if he was an active member of MS-13 and a hardened criminal who is a danger to his community, doncha' think he just might have been arrested in the five years since his release after his deportation hearing?

Yet nothing.

If there was such an airtight case against him, why didn't the Government prosecute him during Trump's first reign of terror? If not then, why not during his second reign of terror? What are we waiting for, Trump's Third Reich?

Dope, we have an unidentified informant who has fingered you as an active member of MS-13.,

Maybe he is and maybe he isn't, but we can't take the chance of this guy being loose on our streets. Off to the gulag with him!

OCD: He's lived here fourteen years without an arrest.

The reason we provide due process for bad guys isn't to benefit the bad guys. It's mostly so that when the government is doing something wrong to good guys by mistake, it's available for them, too. It's also because providing due process is the sign of being one of the just nations - it benefits all of us when we provide a fair system to even the worst among us.

People who don’t understand this are the same ones who wonder why we give murderers a “fair trial.” It costs money to have a trial, it takes time and government resources, it delays things. Why not just “string him up?”

Well, it we don’t do it for the murderers, we do it for the innocent people who are accused of murder. Without due process, you’re just disappearing people because you think they don’t deserve due process. Very popular in East Germany and the Soviet Union. I thought it would be unpopular with everyone in this country, but obviously I was mistaken.

So said an unidentified informant.

Dope, we have an unidentified informant who has fingered you as an active member of MS-13.

And if unpteen people give Dope the frowny face, he's deported to the El Salvador Gulag today.

Lapsody: And if unpteen people give Dope the frowny face, he's deported to the El Salvador Gulag today.

And miss albaby1 repeatedly beating him like a rented mule? No way.

umpteen people

Is umpteen more or less than a bazillion?

--Peter

Is umpteen more or less than a bazillion?

"Umpteen" is the number of baseball umpires on a baseball field.

"This isn't the grand OMG TRUMP REALLY IS A FASCIST YOU GUYS hill that you want to die on."

It is exactly the hill that anyone who actually believes in rule of law and due process should die on.

Either you believe in rule of law and due process for everyone or you don't. You are making it quite clear you don't.

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