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- Manlobbi
Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
No. of Recommendations: 2
Punishment: that's what Americans want, more than anything.
Jonathan Last suggests Democrats take a page from that Republican playbook.
Republicans are primarily intent on hurting Democrats rather than advancing the goals of America.
I'm simply in mourning that it has come to this.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/americans-dont-want-p...
No. of Recommendations: 3
Wow, an almost comical article. Right off the bat:
But the question isn’t if the emergence of a populist, demagogic Democratic party would be good, as a question of morals and propriety. The question is whether or not such a thing could win elections.
This guy voted for Barack Obama twice. Here's a hint: the dems have been demagogic and loudly populist for decades.
There are two ways of viewing the Trump Era. The first is as a continuation of what came before in American politics, slightly exaggerated in various ways but basically recognizable as more of the same. The second is as a discontinuity—a new world.
Obviously both are true. Trump did continue some trends that had been present in American political life for years, or decades, or generations, even. But on balance, I find the latter view more helpfully descriptive: Trump extrapolated existing dynamics while also transforming the public’s attitudes toward violence, democracy, and the rule of law. In so doing he created something new, a sort of American Peronism.
Gobbledygook.
The democrats embraced political violence during Trump's first term with their sniggering about people being assaulted leaving his rallies and then later when their street soldiers were allowed to riot all they wanted, Covid or no Covid. As is with all things, liberals always accuse everyone else of doing the stuff they're already doing.
No. of Recommendations: 15
The democrats embraced political violence
They did nothing of the sort. There were one or two Democratic members of congress who voiced support of BLM protests. One even urged “getting up in their faces”, but you’ve had no widespread support for violence, especially among Democratic politicians.
Republicans, on the other hand, have been encouraging violence on an increasing scale. You have a president who encouraged a mob to storm the Capitol and now wants their pardon. You have a Republican congress that refused to hold Trump accountable and now plays footsie with Nazis and armed militias. And now most Republican politicians, as well as Trump’s pick fot FBI and AG are getting ready to haul out the guillotines.., and all Democrats sre doing is talking about norms and the rule of law.
Jonathan Last (a Republican) is urging Dems to fight fire with fire.
I understand his point, but cannot yet go along with it.
You, on the other hand, seem just fine with Republican promises of retribution, and wildly upset at anyone who suggests Democrats adopt the same policy
No. of Recommendations: 6
Must be my Republican roots. I’m in favor of retribution for the current crop of MAGAites.
But not active retribution. Passive retribution. Let them have what they voted for. Let the liars and con men run things for a while and see what we get. Of course I support opposing the worst of the proposed policies. But I know that most of that opposition will be futile.
In the mean time, I’m taking care of my family and friends and the innocent victims in the mess i expect is coming.
—Peter
No. of Recommendations: 10
Republicans are primarily intent on hurting Democrats rather than advancing the goals of America.
This is known as cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Such is the state of the entire MAGA cult.
I will have no joy when it happens nor will I have any sympathy.
They made their bed and now they can sleep in it.
”Oh, and it's alright, it's alright, it's alright
You can't be forever blessed”
You can’t fix stupid.
No. of Recommendations: 2
They did nothing of the sort.
You mean other than:
*Encouraging people to throw Republicans out of restaurants? "They're public figures, get used to it"
*Laughing at MAGA rally-goers being assaulted "They shouldn't have been there in the first place"
*Protesting Republicans at their home, terrifying the kids (see above)
*Allowing BLM/Antifa riots to burn away blue cities (Covid restrictions for thee, but not for the shock troops)
Etc. Etc.
On PA the restaurant and rally things were widely applauded by your cohorts.
One even urged “getting up in their faces”,
That wasn't Congress. That was Barack "They bring a knife to a fight, you bring a gun" Obama.
In other words, it's been part and parcel of the rot that is the democrat party for years.
And let's not even discuss the entire Fighting Words concept of branding half the country a bunch of FASCISTNAZIHITLERPUTINs.
Jonathan Last (a Republican) is urging Dems to fight fire with fire.
Yeah, right. (One two counts).
1. Last isn't a Republican. He's a grifter who's writing what YOU want to hear.
2. This argument is like telling the arsonist who burned up the city to turn his attention to the forest around it.
You, on the other hand, seem just fine with Republican promises of retribution, and wildly upset at anyone who suggests Democrats adopt the same policy
The democrats have been actively tearing this country down for decades. I'm done with it. I'm done with that trainwreck of a political party that serves foreign masters.
My notion of "retribution" is undoing all their damage and putting the country on better footing...and with that party being a broken, forgotten shell that no one votes for.
That's what I want. democrats want riots, crime, unrest, division and ultimately - the population controlled by an elite few. F all that.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Oh, and one other point:
The structural advantages that democrats enjoy, such as
*Their fraudulent money laundering operation called ActBlue
*Their cozy relationship with national media outlets and polling firms
*Their Deep State partisan operatives that infest the Federal Bureaucracy
*Their ability to extralegislate rules into existence that F with the daily lives of Americans...
...need to be torn down, one by one.
Welcome to the Real World, also known as a Level Playing Field. You people are used to being able to just win by default. As a result you and your party have grown soft and rather flaccid. Let's see how well they do without being born on 3rd base.
No. of Recommendations: 19
The structural advantages that democrats enjoy, such as
You mean like the structural advantage that allowed 2 Republicans to be elected president in the last 7 elections despite getting fewer votes than their opponent?
Or did you mean the structural advantage that allowed the people who live in California have 2 senators and 21 small states with the same total population of California to have 42 senators (including 28 Republican senators)?
Or perhaps the structural advantage of Republicans egregious gerrymandering, the worst being NC, PA, WV, KY, LA, UT, TX, and AK.
Proving once again, YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID.
No. of Recommendations: 1
You mean like the structural advantage that allowed 2 Republicans to be elected president in the last 7 elections despite getting fewer votes than their opponent?
That's an example of a "Level playing field".
I realize that for libs, the notion of "fair" is a bit stilted. Take a debate, for example. "A Fair Debate" == The democrat speaks (and lies freely) while the Republican is bound in a chair while ball-gagged.
That's "Fair" to the left.
liberalism is a mental disorder.
No. of Recommendations: 11
Take a debate, for example. "A Fair Debate" == The democrat speaks (and lies freely) while the Republican is bound in a chair while ball-gagged.
That's "Fair" to the left.
Liberalism is a mental disorder
You paint a false picture that never happened, and then point to it as evidence that liberalism is a mental disorder.
No. of Recommendations: 2
You paint a false picture that never happened, and then point to it as evidence that liberalism is a mental disorder.
Which scenario? The debate?
Every. Single. Media appearance, Presidential debate, name it. It's always the democrat + the media vs. the Republican.
Back on the Fool, the mod would delete any post by a right winger that even approached the line while allowing vile nonsense from Team Dimlib to stand. We had to get...creative...in what we posted.
Nope, nothing made up.
No. of Recommendations: 10
Take a debate, for example. "A Fair Debate" == The democrat speaks (and lies freely) while the Republican is bound in a chair while ball-gagged.
That's "Fair" to the left.
Liberalism is a mental disorder
Inverting reality again. This persecution complex you have is ludicrous.
Trump, the biggest liar this nation's politics have ever seen...by far, and he seems to set the standard for the current crop of Republicans in Congress. And you think your party is gagged? LOL.
No. of Recommendations: 10
'The democrats embraced political violence during Trump's first term with their sniggering about people being assaulted leaving his rallies and then later when their street soldiers were allowed to riot all they wanted" - Dope
Dope, you are dishonest. I know you don't care about being dishonest, but as long as you continue being dishonest, you will still get called out on it.
There was not a single national Democratic politician who supported violence during Trump's first term. None.
You cannot point to a single national Democratic politician doing so. There were literally millions of people who peacefully protested during the BLM protests. Yes, there were a few bad apples who rioted and got violent (oddly enough, many of those who rioted were well-known right-wing troublemakers.... but you will ignore that). What you are trying to do is confuse support for peaceful BLM protestors with support for violence because you are dishonest.
Plenty of national Democratic politicians supported peaceful BLM protests. None supported violence.
Can you point to even a single instance of a national Democratic politician supporting actual violence. I bet you cannot.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Can you point to even a single instance of a national Democratic politician supporting actual violence. I bet you cannot. - Umm
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Well there was some democrat named Kamala who vigorously promoted donations to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, who in turn bailed out BLM protesters so they could get back to work right away on mayhem and arson on the streets, for the people ya' know.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Well there was some democrat named Kamala who vigorously promoted donations to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, who in turn bailed out BLM protesters so they could get back to work right away on mayhem and arson on the streets, for the people ya' know.
Ooops. Never ceases to amaze how they just keep stepping on the same rakes, over and over.
No. of Recommendations: 5
Ooops. Never ceases to amaze how they just keep stepping on the same rakes, over and over.
Putting up bail is supporting how the justice system is designed to work.
This is not an example of a Democrat supporting lawlessness.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Putting up bail is supporting how the justice system is designed to work.
This is not an example of a Democrat supporting lawlessness.
The losertroll thought he had a slam dunk, but ended up on his back in the middle of the lane. Harris offered bail support for rioters and tried to sleigh-of hand her way to condemning Kyle Rittenhouse instead of actual left wing goons.
Bwahahahaa.
No. of Recommendations: 7
The losertroll thought he had a slam dunk, but ended up on his back in the middle of the lane.
More trash talk from Dope.
I repeat. Making a donation to an organization putting up pre-trial bail money is not even remotely an example of Democrats supporting lawlessness. If it is, then the many examples in the last few years of Republicans holding bail fundraising events for many indicted Republicans would be even better examples.
However, calling convicted Capitol rioters “patriots”, as a significant portion of Republican politicians are doing with convicted J6 criminals is most certainly a a clear example of Republicans supporting lawwlessness.
Republican accusations…. Eventually they become Republican confessions
No. of Recommendations: 1
democrat politicians always wink and nod towards left wing violence.
And so do internet libs. They just deny it when pressed. But secretly they all give the Sami al-Arian defense when confronted.
This collective American experience, which is so twisted to have in the wealthiest nation in the world, all of that pain that people have experienced, is being concentrated on this event,” the devout Socialist explained. “It’s really important that we take a step back."
"This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that people interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an act of violence against them."
I’ll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure which leading intellect of the democrat party said this and in what context.
