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Author: ges ✧🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Russia, Russia, Russia!
Date: 08/16/2025 9:21 AM
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Trump beaten and humiliated by Putin.

Trump Backs Off Cease-Fire Demand in Ukraine War, Aligning With Putin

Breaking with Ukraine and European allies, President Trump adopted Russia’s preference for pursuing a sweeping peace deal after meeting with President Vladimir Putin.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/08/16/world/trum...

President Trump appeared on Saturday to split from Ukraine and key European allies after his summit with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, adopting Mr. Putin’s preference for pursuing a sweeping peace agreement instead of the urgent cease-fire Mr. Trump said he wanted before the meeting.

Doing so would give Russia an advantage in the talks, which are due to continue on Monday when President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine visits Mr. Trump at the White House. It breaks from a strategy Mr. Trump and European allies, as well as Mr. Zelensky, had agreed to before the U.S.-Russia summit in Alaska, and it provoked a chilly reception in Europe, where leaders have time and again seen Mr. Trump reverse positions on Ukraine after speaking with Mr. Putin.

We have a Chamberlain in the White House when we need a Churchill.
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Author: ges ✧🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Russia, Russia, Russia!
Date: 08/16/2025 9:25 AM
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We have a Chamberlain in the White House when we need a Churchill.

My apologies to Chamberlain. He may have been the man who pursued appeasement with Hitler but he wasn't an idiot like Trump.
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Subject: Re: Russia, Russia, Russia!
Date: 08/16/2025 9:33 AM
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ges: We have a Chamberlain in the White House...

The key difference between Chamberlain and Trump is that Chamberlain had good intentions.
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Author: wzambon ✶🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Russia, Russia, Russia!
Date: 08/16/2025 11:43 AM
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We have a Chamberlain in the White House when we need a Churchill.

Misguided as he was, Chamberlain was still a British patriot. By all evidence, Chamberlain actually learned the lesson he needed to learn from his disastrous performance in Munich. Humiliated and demoted by the British people, at least Chamberlain got onboard with Britain’s fight for survival after Hitler’s plan for military domination became undeniably clear.


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