Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
No. of Recommendations: 4
Gee. Wonder what they spent it on instead of disaster relief for you know, actual Americans?
Biden/Harris can't be shown the door fast enough.
https://mxmnews.com/article/b150807b-dde0-4dc7-8d4...https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-helene-congre...WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Emergency Management Agency can meet immediate needs but does not have enough funding to make it through the hurricane season, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas told reporters Wednesday.
The agency is being stretched as it works with states to assess damage from Hurricane Helene and delivers meals, water, generators and other critical supplies. The storm struck Florida last week, then plowed through several states in the Southeast, flooding towns and killing more than 160 people.Maybe if they weren't spending roughly ~$500M a year on moving illegal aliens around they'd have more.
No. of Recommendations: 8
Dope1:
Gee. Wonder what they spent it on instead of disaster relief for you know, actual Americans Biden/Harris can't be shown the door fast enough. ... Maybe if they weren't spending roughly ~$500M a year on moving illegal aliens around they'd have more.This republican talking point, amplified in your link by the Orange Oaf's oldest son -- seriously, what kind of idiots think Jr is an authority on anything besides, perhaps, pilfering a charity or business fraud? -- and spread like wildfire by Congressional republicans to the clueless cult is, unsurprisingly, incorrect.
The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) was
authorized and funded by Congress.
SSP is a completely separate, appropriated grant program and is not associated in any way with FEMA's disaster-related authorities or funding streams.
BTW, in the Year of the Orange Oaf, 2020, FEMA spent $47 billion and republicans didn't bat an eye or peep a peep.
https://www.newsweek.com/fema-migrant-funding-hurr...
No. of Recommendations: 2
The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) was authorized and funded by Congress.
SSP is a completely separate, appropriated grant program and is not associated in any way with FEMA's disaster-related authorities or funding streams. - CO
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Both true. But the problem, the malfeasance, goes in the other direction. The FEMA money being siphoned off to service illegals.
No. of Recommendations: 6
Both true. But the problem, the malfeasance, goes in the other direction. The FEMA money being siphoned off to service illegals.
First, it isn't "siphoned off" it's tagged to deal with illegals, and....
SNIP Addressing claims that FEMA does not have enough money to help with the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, the page reads: "FEMA has enough money right now for immediate response and recovery needs. If you were affected by Helene, do not hesitate to apply for disaster assistance as there is a variety of help available for different needs." SNIP
But FEMA stated it doesn't have enough money to make it through the hurricane season. TT your congress critter.
No. of Recommendations: 1
a completely separate, appropriated grant program and is not associated in any way with FEMA's disaster-related authorities or funding streams.
Thanks. You’ve just described how the entire government works.
Whose job is it to plan for emergencies?
No. of Recommendations: 8
Dope1: Gee. Wonder what they spent it on instead of disaster relief for you know, actual Americans Biden/Harris can't be shown the door fast enough.
Do you ever listen to or read real, legitimate news sources? No. You get all your 'information' from the right wing echo chamber and dutifully parrot it. It does not make you look smart.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Dope
Whose job is it to plan for emergencies? Your state and...
42 USC Ch. 68: DISASTER RELIEF
From Title 42—THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE
CHAPTER 68—DISASTER RELIEF
SUBCHAPTER I—FINDINGS, DECLARATIONS, AND DEFINITIONS
Sec.
5120.Do not let Dope do any planning at all.
5121.Congressional findings and declarations.
5121a. Dope planning increases disaster likelihood.
5122.Definitions.
5123.References.
SUBCHAPTER II—DISASTER PREPAREDNESS AND MITIGATION ASSISTANCE
5131.Above all do not let Dope do any planning.
5131.Federal and State disaster preparedness programs.
5132.Disaster warnings.
5133.Predisaster hazard mitigation - lock up Dope.
5134.Interagency task force.
5135.Grants to entities for establishment of hazard mitigation revolving loan funds.
5136.Natural hazard risk assessment.
5136a.Assistance and training for communities with technological hazards and related emerging threats.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@t...
No. of Recommendations: 21
“The FEMA money being siphoned off to service illegals.”
That’s false. I can’t tell whether your brain shorts out every time you hear the word “migrants” or whether you’re actually so gullible as to believe the MAGA lies. Or both.
1. They’re separate budget lines. 2. Congress, including the GOP-led House, appropriated the money. 3. The same program existed under Trump. 4. When he was president, Trump did exactly what he claims Biden did.
Most importantly, 5. None of this crap matters. As literally hundreds of conservative Republicans who know him and served with him have told you, Trump is unfit to serve. He attempted to overthrow the 2020 election. He is a pathological liar, a fraud, a mobster. That’s all that matters.
No. of Recommendations: 2
I can’t tell whether your brain shorts out every time you hear the word “migrants” or whether you’re actually so gullible as to believe the MAGA lies. Or both.
I'm going to invoke the memory of Phil and his door number 3.
He could be deliberately and purposefully spreading and amplifying the lies. Why? Maybe for the fun. Maybe a paid agent of a foreign actor trying to foment dissent.
In any case, I can't rule that one out.
--Peter
No. of Recommendations: 9
"Both true. But the problem, the malfeasance, goes in the other direction. The FEMA money being siphoned off to service illegals."
Your ignorance is so easy to take advantage of. It is so sad and pathetic.
You really have to do better and educate yourself. Our democracy depends upon it.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Your ignorance is so easy to take advantage of. It is so sad and pathetic.
You really have to do better and educate yourself. Our democracy depends upon it. - Umm
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I'm sorry Umm, my clumsy wording has confused you as to what I am trying to say. Let's take it slowly and review
1. Here is CO's post, the one I was responding to.
The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) was authorized and funded by Congress.
SSP is a completely separate, appropriated grant program and is not associated in any way with FEMA's disaster-related authorities or funding streams. - CO
2. And here was my response to CO with the clumsy wording that you proclaim as my ignorance yada yada...
Both true. But the problem, the malfeasance, goes in the other direction. The FEMA money being siphoned off to service illegals.
You see that "Both True" I am agreeing with CO that SSP and DR (Disaster Relief) are separate pots of money.
3. Trump asserts that DR money is being siphoned to migrant services. He is wrong about that.
4. I assert that there still is a problem. That problem is that other pots of money strewn about the governments various checkbooks have flexibility that could be used to shift resources towards DR, but they are not. That is the malfeasance I am talking about.
5. And sure, there is nothing wrong or surprising that biggest bang for the buck means big cities will be the first to see aid. The malfeasance I am pointing to is the remote areas not receiving any tangible FEMA presence or aid after 6 days. Not wrong or unexpected for the first 2 or 3 or 4 days. But in day 6? C'mon, we can do better than that.
Now we are on day 8 and after a few more days, FEMA will be so much more active in the rural areas that the deadly delay will fade from memory and the issue forgotten as FEMA pats itself on the back.
PS - apologies to the board. I find it tedious when two posters get into the minutiae of some disagreement, one that most posters have moved on from, but here I am, doing it myself.
No. of Recommendations: 14
bighairymike: That problem is that other pots of money strewn about the governments various checkbooks have flexibility that could be used to shift resources towards DR, but they are not. That is the malfeasance I am talking about.
No, malfeasance would be taking money from its designated use to put towards something else. Here's an example of malfeasance: the Trump administration transferring $2.5 billion from military construction projects to build sections of the U.S. border wall with Mexico.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that was unlawful. Malfeasance.
bighairymike: The malfeasance I am pointing to is the remote areas not receiving any tangible FEMA presence or aid after 6 days. Not wrong or unexpected for the first 2 or 3 or 4 days. But in day 6? C'mon, we can do better than that.
C'mon. Give us a link, please. Fox "News" anecdotes are not valid.
bighairymike: PS - apologies to the board. I find it tedious when two posters get into the minutiae of some disagreement, one that most posters have moved on from, but here I am, doing it myself.
Trump and republicans are lying. Why should we move on?
No. of Recommendations: 4
That problem is that other pots of money strewn about the governments various checkbooks have flexibility that could be used to shift resources towards DR, but they are not. That is the malfeasance I am talking about
There is plenty of money for this episode of hurricane season, but episode 3 and 4 have not been funded yet. We are waiting to see if transactional Trump becomes President and we start the Kiss the Ring Series or if a normal person becomes President.