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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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If 4,500 gets your vote, I'm fine with that. If you're asking for 500, then no.

See? This is called negotiating. Why not 1,000?


So if you genuinely want to have a border bill passed, it's never going to be a "panacea" to the Freedom Caucus (or whatever group contains the most ardent immigration hawks). Unless you're willing to take a good but flawed bill, you'll never get anything. And Johnson's statements on the bill are not consistent with being willing to accept a good but flawed bill (even if the Senate bill required changes to get to "good but flawed"), but instead signalled pretty clearly that no bill would be brought to the floor.


Who said border hawks get everything they want?
The democrats are standing there telling us how awesome this bill is but make the mistake of thinking that they actually speak for the border hawks...they don't. As I said - repeatedly - while there may be some good things in the bill that doesn't change the fact that there's an overwhelming number of BAD things in the bill so as to ruin it.

And that made it not worth passing. If someone offers you a Waygu steak or a pile of sh1t and says, "Let's negotiate on how much sh1t you're going to chow down", then a 3rd option is finding someplace else to eat.

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