Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
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Thanks to California not having an Election "Day" but rather an election "Season", you can harvest ballots DAYS after Election Day. Spencer Pratt lost his lead and now he's done.
The 2 radical left candidates - Karen Bass the incumbent and the other whacko - will now go to the general.
I have a personal connection with that race. Had Pratt won, he was going to put all of LA's homeless on buses to up here in Seattle, which is already full up. Now that he's done, I don't have to worry :)
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you can harvest ballots DAYS after Election Day.
Liar.
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Liar.
Failure.
They count ballots postmarked AFTER Election Day. You're beyond delusional if you think candidates don't send people out to collect more ballots.
libs. You people lie to yourselves before you lie to the rest of us.
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They count ballots postmarked AFTER Election Day.
According to the "news" counting runs slow in CA because:
- about 80% of ballots cast in CA are by mail.
- ballots postmarked by election day are counted, even if it takes the Post Office a week, or more, to deliver them
- the signatures on the ballot envelopes are compared to the registration signatures on file to verify they are from registered voter.
So, it takes a while. If you want to spend bazillions of dollars hiring more staff to compare signatures, you could speed it up. If you eliminate verifying signatures, at the risk of increased fraud, you could speed it up. Or, you could outlaw voting by mail, which would again, require bazillions of dollars being spent setting up, equipping, and staffing, more polling places to handle the extra volume.
You pick.
Steve
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They count ballots postmarked AFTER Election Day. You're beyond delusional if you think candidates don't send people out to collect more ballots.
As usual, you are misinformed. Your news source is lying to you.
California ballots must be postmarked on or before Election Day in order to be valid and counted. Ballots postmarked AFTER Election Day are invalid and are not counted.
Ballots postmarked on or before Election Day but received AFTER Election Day (within 1 week) are counted.
Officials verify signatures on EVERY ballot against existing records.
California has more registered voters than any other state.
Ballots missing required signatures and/or dates are allowed a short time to cure the ballot, as long as they are postmarked on or before Election Day.
libs. You people lie to yourselves before you lie to the rest of us.
When did you become a lib?
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They count ballots postmarked AFTER Election Day.
Same as all the red states. So, what is YOUR problem?
"You're beyond delusional if you think candidates don't send people out to collect more ballots" in red states. So, what is YOUR problem?
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They count ballots postmarked AFTER Election Day.
Can you provide a link? Per official sources, they have to be postmarked by election day. Is there some particular exception you're specifically referring to?
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Is there some particular exception you're specifically referring to?
RWNJ postings on Pravda Sotsialnyy.
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They count ballots postmarked AFTER Election Day.
Still a liar.
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Still a liar.https://news.ballotpedia.org/2026/01/09/heres-what...On Dec. 24, a new U.S. Postal Service (USPS) rule took effect, stating that mail is not necessarily postmarked on the day it is posted — implicating official documents that require postmarks, including tax returns, court documents, bill payments, and, in some states, absentee/mail-in ballots received after Election Day.
USPS officials have said the rule does not reflect a change in the agency's practices. In a section responding to concerns, the rulemaking documents state, "[T]he present rulemaking clarifies the meaning of the postmark, including for both election officials and voters who choose to use the mail to vote. ... [The rulemaking] educates voters who choose to use the mail to vote that they can take certain measures if they need a postmark date that aligns with the date of mailing[.]"Seems like something that should be fixed.
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Seems like something that should be fixed.
Probably, but it wouldn't make what you said correct. The USPS is alerting folks to the fact that the postmark might get applied some time after the mail is put in their custody. In other words, the postmark would be later than the handover date.
That wouldn't allow people to submit ballots after the election deadline.
Was there something else you were thinking of?
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Was there something else you were thinking of?
He certainly implied something different.
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It is possible to read that as you can walk into a post office with a piece of mail, and they will past date a postmark for you. However, that is not the case. They do imply you can get a past dated postmark, but you need to have put the mail in the hands of the post office by that date. I am not exactly clear on how you were supposed to have gotten it back to take it in for the new postmark.
One concern I have heard from conservative friends is some ballots have no postmarks on them. This can certainly be the case because CA also uses ballot collection boxes in addition to the standard post office.
I did learn that only about half the states require verification of all ballot signatures, and CA is one of them.
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On Dec. 24, a new U.S. Postal Service (USPS) rule took effect, stating that mail is not necessarily postmarked on the day it is posted
Hey! You’re moving up in the world. You didn’t lie in this post. Good job!!
You still demonstrate a severe lack of reading comprehension. The change by the post office means some mail will get a postmark of the day AFTER it was put in the mail. That means that ballots put in the mail before the deadline will be invalidated because the postmark says it was mailed too late to be counted.
Go back and reread the article to see where you misunderstood what it says.
—Peter
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Seems like something that should be fixed.
No kidding. What fucking idiot appointed the last two Postmaster Generals?
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Was there something else you were thinking of?
Ha ha ha, ho ho ho.
You used the word “thinking” in a reply to Dope.
What a great sense of humor you have.
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You didn’t lie i
So...you were wrong, and a d1ck about it to boot. Hey, some folks gotta go through life as they are.
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So...you were wrong,
A complete lack of reading comprehension.
Or a deliberate lie by cutting a sentence short.
Either way, it’s pathetic.
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Either way
Either way, you decided to be a d1ck when you didn't need to be. Did someone piss in your oatmeal this morning?
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That wouldn't allow people to submit ballots after the election deadline.
Was there something else you were thinking of?
Pretty funny, actually. Albaby and the dope have a symbiotic relationship that plays out over and over: dope posts something stupid, something, well, that shows he's a dope, and albaby shows that what was posted is inaccurate and misinformed. It's perfect, everyone gets what they want.
Pete
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Or a deliberate lie by cutting a sentence short.
It’s his trademark.
He thinks it’s an insult.
Actually it simply identifies him as a d1ck.
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Probably, but it wouldn't make what you said correct. The USPS is alerting folks to the fact that the postmark might get applied some time after the mail is put in their custody. In other words, the postmark would be later than the handover date.
That wouldn't allow people to submit ballots after the election deadline.
Was there something else you were thinking of?
Do you have trust in couriers to deliver ballots?
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Do you have trust in couriers to deliver ballots?
What would that have to do with your claim that:
"They count ballots postmarked AFTER Election Day. You're beyond delusional if you think candidates don't send people out to collect more ballots."
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you decided to be a d1ck when you didn't need to be.I'm sorry. In my book, being a dick isn't pointing out errors, mistakes, or lies.
Being a dick is when errors are pointed out and the one making the error refuses to acknowledge their error and instead doubles down claiming they weren't wrong. Or tries to change the subject. Or does anything and everything they can think of to avoid saying the magic words "I was wrong".
Here's an example of a dick. Not the guy telling the story. The guy thinking he's going to get away with voter fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3ucTqnKldo3 1/2 minutes of unbelievable stupidity on display by a gullible MAGA.
--Peter
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I'm sorry. In my book, being a dick isn't pointing out errors, mistakes, or lies.
Personal attacks == being a dick. You messed up, so own it.
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Do you have trust in couriers to deliver ballots?
Are you writing about accepted couriers (Fed Ex, DHL, UPS) to deliver timely tax filings, as accepted couriers for mail in ballots? Didn't know they did that, but, yes I would. They have acceptable methods for ensuring the correct date stamp. I would repeat Albaby's question though - do you have any evidence there has been any tampering? Would you provide it?
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Personal attacks
Telling the truth is not a personal attack.
Calling someone a dick IS a personal attack.
You lie almost as often as Trump. Therefore calling you a liar is simply a statement of fact.
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Telling the truth is not a personal attack.
Calling someone a dick IS a personal attack.
You lie almost as often as Trump. Therefore calling you a liar is simply a statement of fact.
No lying here, sport. I notice you rarely step in and debate. Not up for it intellectually, I suppose.
And calling you out for being a d1ck is more of the truth telling you prize. Pity. Glass houses, stones, all that. It's all good.
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Pretty funny, actually. Albaby and the dope have a symbiotic relationship that plays out over and over: dope posts something stupid, something, well, that shows he's a dope,
and albaby shows that what was posted is inaccurate and misinformed.
My deepest sympathies to the MAGA faithful; being in a cult is a grueling full-time job with zero paid time off, no benefits, and an absolute corporate ban on self-reflection...
Cult Members (Dope1) Daily Job Duties Include:
09:00 Receive today's programming update.
10:00 Erase yesterday’s programming.
11:00 Perform the mandatory 180-degree mental flip.
13:00 Treat the glaring logical contradictions as 5D chess!
15:00 Defend your rapist/billionaire/pedophile savior, and send in your $19.99 donation. (To prove your loyalty.)
17:00 Clock out of reality entirely.
#BEING-IN-A-CULT-SUCKS :(
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No lying here, sport.
I forgot. You're in some upside down alternate reality where lies are the truth and the truth is a lie.
Back here in the real world, you lied about the California election. A big, fat, stupid, dumb lie. So I called you a liar.
I notice you rarely step in and debate. Not up for it intellectually, I suppose.
When all else fails, revert to the accusation as confession mantra. Always can count on the noisiest MAGAs to do that.
For those who may care, I'm more than happy to debate. I've crossed paths with many here, but prefer to discuss things with actual smart people, like Al and many others. That way we both might learn something.
I'm also an ardent follower of an old adage: Don't wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty, but the pig likes it. You're doing a great job of demonstrating that adage, BTW. You seem to revel in your ignorance, wearing it as a badge of honor.
So yes, I don't talk with you much. Not because I'm not up to it, but because I have better things to do with my time. Every once in a while, however, I've got some free time to waste on pointing out your foolishness. Gotta give the regulars a break from the Sisyphean task of trying to get through to you.
--Peter
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I forgot.
You forgot you were wrong and now you won't let it go.
I took you off Ignore because you seemed like you didn't want to be like most of the others here and just throw mud. It's not their fault; single-helixed morons can't help themselves. But you had shown signs of actually not being a complete loser. But nope; I remember you have paper-thin skin and no ability to receive even mild pushback. So many here think they can just insult anyone they want with zero consequences...
This whole thing was initiated by you, the record will reflect. Let's go ahead and add you to the rest of the board's population of doofi.
Toodles, little P! <click>. Meanwhile, I dedicate Los Angeles' next 10,000 homeless to you.
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Just to put this thread to rest.
https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/regulations/...20991. Standards for Valid and Invalid Vote-by-Mail Ballots
A vote-by-mail ballot shall be subject to the standards provided in the approved use procedures for the system on which it is processed and the provisions of the Elections Code. In addition, the following standards shall also apply.
A voter's ballot shall be considered a valid ballot, if the
Vote-by-mail ballot identification envelope has no dated postmark, the postmark is illegible, and there is no date stamp for receipt from a bona fide private mail delivery service, but the voter has dated the vote-by-mail ballot identification envelope or the envelope otherwise indicates that the ballot was executed on or before Election Day and the ballot was received by the elections official in accordance with Elections Code section 3020.
And what does Section 3020 say?
https://california.public.law/codes/elections_code...If the ballot has no postmark, a postmark with no date, or an illegible postmark, and no other information is available from the United States Postal Service or the bona fide private mail delivery company to indicate the date on which the ballot was mailed, the vote by mail ballot identification envelope is date stamped by the elections official upon receipt of the vote by mail ballot from the United States Postal Service or a bona fide private mail delivery company, and is signed and dated pursuant to Section 3011 on or before election day.
(c)For purposes of this section, “bona fide private mail delivery company” means a courier service that is in the regular business of accepting a mail item, package, or parcel for the purpose of delivery to a person or entity whose address is specified on the item....which would be why I asked about private couriers upthread.
So yes. Ballots don't need postmarks in the state of California. As I said.
The Federalist puts things this way
That doesn’t necessarily prove fraud in the mayoral race, but it does leave room for questions and skepticism (Ed: unless you're a credulous liberal)
about California’s election integrity when it chooses to count ballots that lack an objective third-party method of verification for the day they were mailed out on. For example, a voter realistically could cast a ballot the day after the election but handwrite the Election Day date on the envelope since the system relies heavily on self-reporting and trust. If the ballot arrives within the seven-day time frame during which mail-in ballots are accepted, the ballot could count.
