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Seen elsewhere:
A right wing shooter killed a right wing activist because he wasn't right wing enough, at a right wing event being held at a right wing college in a right wing city with a right wing mayor in a right wing state with a right wing governor.
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Right.
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A right wing shooter killed a right wing activist because he wasn't right wing enough, at a right wing event being held at a right wing college in a right wing city with a right wing mayor in a right wing state with a right wing governor.
And it’s the left’s fault.
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A right wing shooter
Name your right wing shooter.
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Name your right wing shooter. —— LM
Your screen name indicates that you are a woman.
I'm not sure Charlie would appreciate you speaking right now.
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Also seen elsewhere:
People are being fired for quoting Charly Kirks actual words, while Kirk has the
nations flags flown at half-staff for uttering those actual words.
Someone make it make sense LoL
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Name your right wing shooter.
If it's just shooting your mouth off, you, Dope, and Jedi qualify.
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Your screen name indicates that you are a woman.
I'm not sure Charlie would appreciate you speaking right now.
Your reply tells me you are a left wing radical following orders doing your best to
make Charlie Kirk the bad guy and Tyler Robinson the good guy.
Sad here the left is in support of Tyler Robinson, a left wing convert with murder in his heart.
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Your reply tells me you are a left wing radical following orders doing your best to
make Charlie Kirk the bad guy and Tyler Robinson the good guy.
Sad here the left is in support of Tyler Robinson, a left wing convert with murder in his heart. —— LM
Rupert says touch your nose.
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Charlie Kirk the bad guy and Tyler Robinson the good guy.
Can't they both be bad guys, just in different ways? For instance, I don't think you've paid homage enough to Charlie as a woman - genuflect and take your rightful place. Tyler murdered someone in cold blood - he has his place behind bars.
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Sad here the left is in support of Tyler Robinson, a left wing convert with murder in his heart.
Are you really misunderstanding what’s being expressed to you so badly?
No one here is supporting Tyler Robinson. Everyone is acknowledging that he’s a murderous piece of carp. What people are saying to you is that they currently believe that he is a murderous piece of carp on “your team.” That he’s probably a right wing murderer, not a left-wing one.
Personally, I think that’s also a rather foolish position to take. We don’t know much about this terrible person, or what his motivations were. I think that there’s every chance that he might turn out to be someone who holds left-wing political views, and might’ve been motivated by that. But at least for now, you might want to listen to what people are actually saying to you LurkerMom
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A right wing shooter killed a right wing activist because he wasn't right wing enough, at a right wing event being held at a right wing college in a right wing city with a right wing mayor in a right wing state with a right wing governor.
A radical left conspiracy! For sure.
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Personally, I think that’s also a rather foolish position to take. We don’t know much about this terrible person, or what his motivations were. I think that there’s every chance that he might turn out to be someone who holds left-wing political views, and might’ve been motivated by that. But at least for now, you might want to listen to what people are actually saying to you LurkerMom
You said it..thank you..
“I think that there’s every chance that he might turn out to be someone who holds left-wing political views, and might’ve been motivated by that.”
Reports coming in, Robinson is all that.
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“I think that there’s every chance that he might turn out to be someone who holds left-wing political views, and might’ve been motivated by that.”
Or, he could have been a loser looking for his 15 minutes of fame. Admitting he did it to others could be motivated by more fame seeking.
Reports coming in, Robinson is all that.
As David Frum said, last night, "why would I believe anything Patel says?"
Steve
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Or, he could have been a loser looking for his 15 minutes of fame. Admitting he did it to others could be motivated by more fame seeking.
Sure. But I think that it's way too early for anyone to be stating confidently, or even supposing, that this involved "[a] right wing shooter [who] killed a right wing activist because he wasn't right wing enough...." We know very little about the shooter or why he did what he did.
I don't know whether the statement I quoted is true or false, since we have no real facts yet. If I were forced to guess, I would predict that assessment is going to age badly. There's no indication (as yet) that Robinson was a groyper who held Nick Fuentes' views of Charlie Kirk - which makes me think it's a bit unlikely that he is one, since groypers (and Fuentes followers generally) tend to be extremely online. And one thing we can infer is that Robinson probably wasn't extremely online - if he was, we would probably have seen tons of reporting about his online statements by now.
That guess might be wrong - maybe he was a non-online groyper, or only was online in non-public fora. But I think what little evidence we have (or inferred absence of evidence) would lean against him shooting Kirk because he wasn't right wing enough.
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That guess might be wrong - maybe he was a non-online groyper, or only was online in non-public fora. But I think what little evidence we have (or inferred absence of evidence) would lean against him shooting Kirk because he wasn't right wing enough.
Or TPTB might be suppressing anything that does not fit their narrative.
We probably won't know until he is on trial, in open court, and speaks for himself. That will probably be a year from now. Unless he ends up like Oswald, before then. The trial is sure to be a circus, especially if right before the midterms. The regime will try to paint him as part of the "huge left wing conspiracy", that justifies the police state hammer being brought down on everyone who does not toe the regime line.
Steve
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Or TPTB might be suppressing anything that does not fit their narrative.
We probably won't know until he is on trial, in open court, and speaks for himself.
It's really hard to suppress stuff that's been posted online. The absence of anything after several days makes it pretty likely that this guy didn't have a huge public online presence. There are lots of "non-public" sites, but even those platforms have so many users that it's starts to get unlikely that he had a huge presence there but no one has passed it along to the media yet.
Pretty unlikely this guy ever testifies in court - most criminal defendants don't take the stand, and for very good reason.
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At last! A school shooting that Conservatives care about!
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Are you really misunderstanding what’s being expressed to you so badly?
Oooo, I'm late to this thread. There must be some real visit-Nepal-and-climb-to-the-top-of-Kamar-Taj-to-see-the-Ancient-One stuff in this thread! Let's check it out.
A right wing shooter killed a right wing activist because he wasn't right wing enough, at a right wing event being held at a right wing college in a right wing city with a right wing mayor in a right wing state with a right wing governor.
Hmm. Not here. This is merely repeating the desperate media lie that the shooter wasn't steeped in left wing ideology and decided to act on it. Instead, this is a baseless taunt meant to deflect blame away from the political left whose actions and words are increasing in support of political violence to further their aims.
What else do we have? BTW I'd score it as LM perfectly understanding what's being "expressed".
Right. <--- Loads of insight here, piling into the same asininity found in the OP. Next!
And it’s the left’s fault. <--- Three posts in we have our first actual true statement, although it was meant to be sarcastic and insulting. So no credit for being correct will be assigned.
Next!
Your screen name indicates that you are a woman.
I'm not sure Charlie would appreciate you speaking right now.
Here's another veiled insult thrown at Kirk, who of course never implied that women should stay silent. That doesn't stop people with a penchant for felching to lie and claim otherwise, though.
People are being fired for quoting Charly Kirks actual words, while Kirk has the
nations flags flown at half-staff for uttering those actual words.
Someone make it make sense LoL <--- Hmm. Also incorrect. People are being fired for being callous, crass and stupid enough to mock a man's murder, especially one as shocking and public as this one was. Employers are free to choose to not employ sociopaths, and they are!
Man. Some real Dalai Lama type stuff here! Board libs should charge people money.
Let's continue:
If it's just shooting your mouth off, you, Dope, and Jedi qualify. <-- Here's the obligatory shot at other board members. Argumentatively, that's always the way to go to make a point in a debate.
Next!
Rupert says touch your nose. <--- Ah, the "Fox News tells you what to say". People who play with straws are the experts in that.
Next!
Can't they both be bad guys, just in different ways? For instance, I don't think you've paid homage enough to Charlie as a woman - genuflect and take your rightful place. Tyler murdered someone in cold blood - he has his place behind bars.
Okay. Several posts in and we have someone trying to phrase an argument, albeit poorly and not correct factually. Bronze star for making the effort, though. Kirk never said, shut up, ho or words to that effect and wasn't a bad guy. He was murdered for...merely speaking.
There's literally no one on the left on this board who understands the implications of that. No one. And that's sad. And represents the real threat to our Republic.
Let's do 1 more:
A radical left conspiracy! For sure. <-=== We get to another actual true statement. Several online groups knew ahead of time about it and kept quiet. That makes them accomplices.
So there we have it. Returning to this:
Are you really misunderstanding what’s being expressed to you so badly?
The answer is "no". because what's being expressed here is the usual schoolyard taunting from the usual suspects who aren't now and never will take accountability for the hate they spew out on a deadly basis. However, in today's society, there are plenty of crazies and adjacent crazies who are willing to pick up a weapon and do something about.
And that's just A-OK with a large number of democrats today.
Rationality would normally demand that one would take a breath before calling half the country Hiterfacisctracistgenocideterroristtraitors on a loop but rationality flew the coop years ago with the hard core left.
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And here's an example of the modern left today. Remember the old guy who was the first person they arrested, thinking he was the shooter?
Turns out there's a very good reason for that:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/first-man-arre...OREM, Utah (KTVX) — The first man arrested in connection with the deadly shooting of Charlie Kirk yelled, “I shot him, now shoot me” immediately after the shooting in an attempt to help the shooter escape, according to newly filed documents.
George Zinn, 71, was taken into custody following the shooting, but he was later cleared on having any direct involvement with the shooting. He was arrested on suspicion of obstruction of justice.What the actual F.
It goes on:
According to the affidavit of probable cause that was filed today, immediately after the shooting, Zinn allegedly walked up to a police officer and started yelling, “I shot him, now shoot me.” The officer could not see a weapon in his hands and placed him in handcuffs. The officer asked him where the gun was, and he reportedly said, “I am not going to tell you.”
As he was transported to the UVU Police Department, he allegedly continued to say that he shot Kirk and to just shoot him. At the Police Department, Zinn was advised of his rights and asked for a lawyer.
According to the affidavit, after he asked for a lawyer, without being asked any questions by investigators, he stated that he did not shoot Kirk and that he said he did to draw attention away from the real shooter.I hope the feds charge this geezer with Accessory to Murder After the Fact and throw the book at him.
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The answer is "no". because what's being expressed here is the usual schoolyard taunting from the usual suspects who aren't now and never will take accountability for the hate they spew out on a deadly basis.
But none of that is support for Tyler Robinson.
That's why I noted that LurkerMom was deeply misunderstanding what was said to her. Lots of folks here disparaging the idea that this is somehow the action of "the left," any more than you accept the idea that violence committed against Democratic and progressive folks should be attributed to "the right." Some comments disparaging Charlie Kirk's positions, viewpoints, and behavior. Some comments making fun of right-wing news organizations.
But no one expressing support for Tyler Robinson. Which is what LurkerMom actually said was being expressed.
Just because people here say things you think are hateful doesn't mean that everything that is hateful is something they've said - any more than the reverse is true about your own statements. LM is correctly perceiving that people here are hostile to her arguments but is incorrectly concluding that means they support Tyler Robinson. The latter is false, even if the former is true.
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I hope the feds charge this geezer with Accessory to Murder After the Fact and throw the book at him.
Actually, with the details you provide, it looks like the old geezer (5 years younger than I am-sigh) was begging for a suicide by cop.
Perhaps a padded room would be more appropriate
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But none of that is support for Tyler Robinson.
They spew the hate that Tyler Robinson listened to. In other words, while they may not have pulled the trigger they helped whisper in the ear of the guy that did.
It may not be outright support but when throw in the mocking, sarcasm and continued expressions of hate it's damn near the same thing.
I suspect that the fairly big reasons that "no one [is] expressing support for Tyler Robinson" is because a) would look bad given the world's reaction to the murder and b) would require some of them to pull off their masks completely.
On PA the board cheered when Rush Limbaugh and Justice Scalia died. One poster even said, "There is a God". That was PeterRabit.
No one called him out for it. You want to know how the overt acts of hate start? Right there, in sentiments like that.
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They spew the hate that Tyler Robinson listened to
You spew the same hate that the killer of the Hortman murders or the hammerer of Paul Pelosi listened to.
Do you see the problem with that argument?
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It may not be outright support but when throw in the mocking, sarcasm and continued expressions of hate it's damn near the same thing.
It's not the same thing. Any more than when you mock and ridicule and use sarcasm and make continued expressions of hate towards the left, it's not expressing support for the dude who killed the Hosrtmans. As expressed above, people can both believe that Charlie Kirk was a terrible person and that Tyler Robinson is a terrible person for murdering him.
I suspect that the fairly big reasons that "no one [is] expressing support for Tyler Robinson" is because a) would look bad given the world's reaction to the murder and b) would require some of them to pull off their masks completely.
This is, I think, why your discussions on this board are so unproductive. If you're not actually listening to what people are saying, and instead just treating them as if they were the imaginary different people you want to be arguing with, then you're going to be both frustrated and frustrating. You've decided in your head what everyone here "really" believes, and you're arguing against that - instead of paying any attention to what the folks here actually believe.
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You spew the same hate that the killer of the Hortman murders or the hammerer of Paul Pelosi listened to.
Do you see the problem with that argument?
Sure. It doesn't happen to be true. Among other failings.
In fat, let's count up the number of Fails in your attempt at redirect.
First, no. I don't do that. Fail 1.
Second, the crimes you mentioned were by crazy people. I've yet to hear an explanation for how killing the Hortmans in an insane plot to make Tim Walz a Senator is somehow linked to the GOP. Maybe you can explain that one to me. Fail 2.
Third, even if I did do what you claim - I don't - you'd be adopting the Two Wrongs Make a Right logical fallacy. Fail 3.
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Second, the crimes you mentioned were by crazy people.
But the murderer of Charlie Kirk was not crazy?
As for the “insane plot to make Tim Walz a senator”, the only insanity is found in claiming that this was indeed the motive.
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It's not the same thing. Any more than when you mock and ridicule and use sarcasm and make continued expressions of hate towards the left, it's not expressing support for the dude who killed the Hosrtmans. As expressed above, people can both believe that Charlie Kirk was a terrible person and that Tyler Robinson is a terrible person for murdering him.
Failure. No rightie here routinely likens the left to one of history's most genocidal movements on the daily. Doesn't happen. There's no equivocation defense for you here counselor.
As expressed above, people can both believe that Charlie Kirk was a terrible person and that Tyler Robinson is a terrible person for murdering him.
I agree that people have the right to be morons. What should be said is that they can also be sarcastic, insensitive and borderline sociopathic morons at the same time.
This is, I think, why your discussions on this board are so unproductive. If you're not actually listening to what people are saying, and instead just treating them as if they were the imaginary different people you want to be arguing with, then you're going to be both frustrated and frustrating. You've decided in your head what everyone here "really" believes, and you're arguing against that - instead of paying any attention to what the folks here actually believe.
LOL. See the above. And go square that circle with "you Trumpers all..." or "MAGAts believe..." and before that "You Bushies are...".
You're operating under the impression that the other side should sit there politely while the libs routinely issue blood insult after blood insult with no response. Or perhaps the response should be, "Erm, yes. You have a point. Perhaps the right does have Nazi tendencies. Let's all discuss those tendencies and how one can improve oneself".
Nah, bruv. The proper response for the constant insults is an extended middle finger. It actually requires a fair amount of discipline to refrain from responding in kind to volume of it flung here on a daily basis.
If you want to raise the quality of the debate here, then your words would be better sent towards the dozen or so serial insulters who do nothing but attack others. As I've shown, I'm more than willing to step in and take on all comers in the arena of debate and even willing to argue the weaker side to make in interesting.
But there are limits, and the last several years have blown past them.
Pretending the right is the instigator is hilarious. It's like being the world's worst hockey referee, the guy that never sees Player 1 knee Player 2 in the b@lls but blows the whistle when Player 2 has had enough and retaliates.
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But the murderer of Charlie Kirk was not crazy?
So far we don't know much, but from what we do know that doesn't seem to be the case. The charging docs will tell us more.
He for sure wasn't some Right Winger Who Thought Charlie Kirk Wasn't Right Wing Enough.
As for the “insane plot to make Tim Walz a senator”, the only insanity is found in claiming that this was indeed the motive.
And yet, that's what the facts of the case are. Al is going to come talk to you about arguing with who you want to be arguing with instead of the actual people.
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LM is correctly perceiving that people here are hostile to her arguments but is incorrectly DELIBERATELY Concluding that means they support Tyler Robinson.
She is fulfilling her function as a provocateur.
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LOL. See the above. And go square that circle with "you Trumpers all..." or "MAGAts believe..." and before that "You Bushies are...".
And you, Dope, have been calling us “You people”, “communists”, “fascists”, and “terrorist lovers” since before Marc Antony carved Cleopatra’s initials on a rock.
As in “You people believe…” followed by strings of nonsense that few of us believe.
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And you, Dope, have been calling us “You people”, “communists”, “fascists”, and “terrorist lovers” since before Marc Antony carved Cleopatra’s initials on a rock.
As in “You people believe…” followed by strings of nonsense that few of us believe.
I don't issue blood insults on a daily basis. You people in fact get triggered when I say "you people" so no, that doesn't count.
Can you folks say the same?
At any rate. The standing open challenge of Lurker, myself and Jedi against all of you remains. If LM and Jedi aren't up for it I'll take on this entire board myself.
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And yet, that's what the facts of the case are.
That’s certainly one claim, but that is not a fact.
And it certainly doesn’t explain that kill list the guy had that listed the names of dozens of Democrats. (And he’d made a proper start to eliminating folks on that list)
Unless, of course, the guy intended to kill dozens of Democrats in order to elect a Democrat.
If that was the plan, then I’ll agree- the guy is crazy.
But at this point, it seems that those who claim this was the plan would be the ones stretching facts further than silly putty or bubble gum can be stretched without breaking.
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At any rate. The standing open challenge of Lurker, myself and Jedi against all of you remains. If LM and Jedi aren't up for it I'll take on this entire board myself.
Go ahead and continue your fight.
I’m beginning to wonder whether it is wise to remain here, given the concrete threats and concrete actions being taken by this regime against those exercising their free speech rights.
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No rightie here routinely likens the left to one of history's most genocidal movements on the daily.
Really? No comparisons to Communism? At all? A movement that certainly killed more people than the Nazi government in Germany? You don't remember the times when you've compared the left to fascism as well?
I'm sure you meant those only to be rhetorical references, not that politicians or people you disagree with are literal communists. Just like when liberals here mention fascism or Nazism and don't clearly intend those words to mean literal membership in those actual organizations.
You're operating under the impression that the other side should sit there politely while the libs routinely issue blood insult after blood insult with no response.
No, I'm not. Any more than you believe that libs should sit here politely while conservatives issue blood insult after blood insult as well.
But there are limits, and the last several years have blown past them.
Again, I think you probably should engage in a little self reflection about your own posting style. I'm sure you believe it's justified, but you've been insulting Democrats, progressives, and liberals from the very first time I encountered your posts back on TMF. This isn't a "last several years" thing - you've been dripping with contempt for nearly all things progressive since at least the Obama administration, and lobbing insults about it to match.
It's like being the world's worst hockey referee, the guy that never sees Player 1 knee Player 2 in the b@lls but blows the whistle when Player 2 has had enough and retaliates.
You do realize that when you post that, every one of your interlocutors believes that you're describing yourself, not your opponents? That you're utterly unable to realize how your posting style has been a "knee in the b@lls" to people you disagree with for quite a while - and you're not able to see yourself doing it?
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The charging docs will tell us more.
Probably not much more. There's not a ton of detail they'll put into the charging documents - just enough to establish the very low evidentiary bar that this was an intentional killing, which is an essential element to a first degree murder (or Utah equivalent) charge. They won't need to put a lot in about motive.
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That’s certainly one claim, but that is not a fact.Sure it is.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/alle...The man accused of murdering a Minnesota politician and seriously injuring another left a handwritten letter to FBI director Kash Patel, confessing to the shootings and claiming Minnesota governor Tim Walz approached him about killing 2 U.S. Senators ... at least according to federal prosecutors.As for this:
If that was the plan, then I’ll agree- the guy is crazy.As shown above, that was the plan, and yes, he's nuts.
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That's why I noted that LurkerMom was deeply misunderstanding what was said to her. Lots of folks here disparaging the idea that this is somehow the action of "the left," any more than you accept the idea that violence committed against Democratic and progressive folks should be attributed to "the right." Some comments disparaging Charlie Kirk's positions, viewpoints, and behavior. Some comments making fun of right-wing news organizations.
No, there was/is no misunderstanding on my part. Dope said exactly what leads me to the conclusion the left here cannot reply without their insults thrown in, so are insinuating they are in support of Robinson.
“It may not be outright support but when throw in the mocking, sarcasm and continued expressions of hate it's damn near the same thing.” Dope
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Really? No comparisons to Communism? At all? A movement that certainly killed more people than the Nazi government in Germany? You don't remember the times when you've compared the left to fascism as well?
Do I do this Every.Single.Day.
No.
Yeah. No. I don't.
Just like when liberals here mention fascism or Nazism and don't clearly intend those words to mean literal membership in those actual organizations. It's all just one big laugh hahahahahah we're just funnin' with you guys, is that it?
Really. You're posting this with a straight face? What's the phrase..."If you don't want to be called a fascist, stop acting like a fascist". I read that here.
Have I ever celebrated the death of a liberal? Nope. Not once, not ever. But on PA it was a thing for left wingers to celebrate the death of a rightie (I noticed no comment to my bringing up it upthread, btw).
This isn't a "last several years" thing - you've been dripping with contempt for nearly all things progressive since at least the Obama administration, and lobbing insults about it to match.
Again. I could do nothing but personally insult nearly every liberal here plus all their friends and families 24/7 for the next dozen years and still not catch up. I'd explain the difference, but you're attempting to make this about me while turning a blind eye to what your running mates do.
You do realize that when you post that, every one of your interlocutors believes that you're describing yourself, not your opponents?
The people who invariably complain about Yours Truly are often
1. The worst offenders themselves, and have the thinnest skin
2. People who believe with every fiber of their being that the right wing IS full of nothing but white supremacists and Nazis
3. Players of Calvinball, who want to be able to throw rocks but then whine to mommy when someone dares make even mild retorts.
I'm the one who after every game gets to go put ice on his b@lls. The people that throw the first knee/punch aren't allowed to complain should I decide on some creative stickwork of my own in retaliation for they have done, continue to do, and will do.
Jedi is another guy with a perpetual ice pack. He deals with it in another way than I do.
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No, there was/is no misunderstanding on my part. Dope said exactly what leads me to the conclusion the left here cannot reply without their insults thrown in, so are insinuating they are in support of Robinson.
Then you are misunderstanding what the "left here" believe, because insulting your statements about the situation is not the same thing as supporting Robinson. You're free to disdain them for either reason, of course - but you should at least be aware that you're mistaken about what they actually believe.
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“It may not be outright support but when throw in the mocking, sarcasm and continued expressions of hate it's damn near the same thing.” Dope
Dope, here is LM quoting you as her reason for maintaining that “we” support the guy who killed Charlie Kirk.
Do you agree with her conclusion and use of your words?
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Dope, here is LM quoting you as her reason for maintaining that “we” support the guy who killed Charlie Kirk.
Do you agree with her conclusion and use of your words?
Right after Kirk was murdered we had the sarcastic "thoughts and prayers" trope that the left likes to use.
And when I say "right after" it was literally within hours. Then we had the sick jokes also within hours. Hahahaha, so funny!
So you'll have to forgive us when we read the things that your favorites type and read them as being the words of sociopaths.
But as always on the board, it's never about that, it's instead about the right wingers who point it out.
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Name your right wing shooter.
How do you NOT KNOW ????
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Do I do this Every.Single.Day.
No.
Yeah. No. I don't.
No, you don't - but neither do any other individual posters.
It's all just one big laugh hahahahahah we're just funnin' with you guys, is that it?
Really. You're posting this with a straight face? What's the phrase..."If you don't want to be called a fascist, stop acting like a fascist".
It's not a big laugh, funnin' - it's a legitimate criticism. But what it's not is a literal claim that you are a member of the actual political organization that was the fascist party in the 1940's. It's not a "blood insult" - it's a rhetorical expression used to signify that you are advocating policies that a fascist government would advocate, but not that you're a member of the fascist party. It's like when you call people a communist - you're not claiming that they are part of the same literal organization that, say, killed millions of people in genocides in the Killing Fields or the Cultural Revolution or Stalin's Russia, just labelling what their views are.
Again. I could do nothing but personally insult nearly every liberal here plus all their friends and families 24/7 for the next dozen years and still not catch up. I'd explain the difference, but you're attempting to make this about me while turning a blind eye to what your running mates do.
Because that's the point. No one disputes that you get insulted, frequently, on this board - and that your beliefs and positions (and those of the right in general) are held up for ridicule and criticism. But for some strange reason, you seem unable to recognize that the exchanges are mutual. There are more "left" posters here than "right" posters, so the volume is different - but you've consistently (and always) given as brutally and cruelly as you've gotten.
I'm the one who after every game gets to go put ice on his b@lls. The people that throw the first knee/punch aren't allowed to complain should I decide on some creative stickwork of my own in retaliation for they have done, continue to do, and will do.
Again, I don't know why you seem to believe that other people are the ones who throw the first knee/punch. You have no problem engaging in creative stickwork regardless of whether anyone has thrown the first knee/punch - because there's always a knee/punch from another thread, or another day, or from back on TMF if need be. But when other people do that to you, you don't see their knee/punch as being a response to your history of insulting them? When they do it it's the first knee/punch?
You seem to like insulting the left a lot - and that's fine, if that's what you want to do. I'm just constantly surprised by how much you seem to think that you're just responding to what they do, rather than this being a dynamic that you and they have been engaged in for decades now.
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Reports coming in, Robinson is all that.
SEE ???
You DO know the name of the right wing killer of a right wing nut.
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It's not a big laugh, funnin' - it's a legitimate criticism. But what it's not is a literal claim that you are a member of the actual political organization that was the fascist party in the 1940's. It's not a "blood insult" - it's a rhetorical expression used to signify that you are advocating policies that a fascist government would advocate, but not that you're a member of the fascist party. It's like when you call people a communist - you're not claiming that they are part of the same literal organization that, say, killed millions of people in genocides in the Killing Fields or the Cultural Revolution or Stalin's Russia, just labelling what their views are.
When's the last time I called somebody a Communist?
But for some strange reason, you seem unable to recognize that the exchanges are mutual. There are more "left" posters here than "right" posters, so the volume is different - but you've consistently (and always) given as brutally and cruelly as you've gotten.
The exchanges are NOT mutual. I have stalkers that literally follow me from board to board hurling insults. So do the other righties. That's messed up.
"Brutally and cruelly"? Come on, man. You're overplaying your hand again. This statement is ridiculous on its face.
Again, I don't know why you seem to believe that other people are the ones who throw the first knee/punch.
It's called "lived experience".
I could pull literally dozens of posts and my responses to them, but it's not worth it.
Good day to you.
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Then you are misunderstanding what the "left here" believe, because insulting your statements about the situation is not the same thing as supporting Robinson. You're free to disdain them for either reason, of course - but you should at least be aware that you're mistaken about what they actually believe.
No, they are not insulting my statements they are insulting me.
I see no other reason for me to think otherwise, their
undertone being their hate for Charlie Kirk and his
support for President Trump. Thus, their champion is Robinson.
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It's called "lived experience".
I could pull literally dozens of posts and my responses to them, but it's not worth it.
You might just try searching for "NPC" or "Sheeple." Those are keywords that you and Jedi use to insult posters here on the board that aren't often used in other contexts.
Good day to you.
And a good day to you as well.
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No, they are not insulting my statements they are insulting me.
I see no other reason for me to think otherwise, their
undertone being their hate for Charlie Kirk and his
support for President Trump. Thus, their champion is Robinson.
That's still wrong. People can hate Charlie Kirk and his support for President Trump and not support Robinson. They can insult you and not support Robinson.
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"No, there was/is no misunderstanding on my part. Dope said exactly what leads me to the conclusion the left here cannot reply without their insults thrown in, so are insinuating they are in support of Robinson." - LOLMom
Your failure to understand basic logic does not insinuate anything about anyone else.
For the record, not a single person here has ever expressed anything that could be construed as support for Robinson.
On the other hand, you have regularly expressed support for a 33 time convicted felon, abjugated rapist, who brags about assaulting women, who was best friends with a pedophile, who encouraged people to beat up on cops and then pardoned them, who regularly disparages the military, who was stealing from charities, who was impeached twice, and on and on.....
What do you think this says about yourself?
BTW, every single line of this post has been accurate and true. If you are insulted by any of it, perhaps you might want to look at your values as a human being.
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Right after Kirk was murdered we had the sarcastic "thoughts and prayers" trope that the left likes to use.
It’s good that you see the issue, but because you are on the receiving end of it, you fail to hear the message.
Here’s the message:
After years of dismissing our anger over the deaths of children gunned down by yet another idiot with a gun , dismissing us as “using the bodies of children to advance our agenda of grabbing guns”….
And after years of hearing Republican politician after Republican politician offer “thoughts and prayers”, or vague words (and little else) about “mental health” but nothing else to address the problem, do you really wonder why we might respond to Charlie Kirk’s death with “thoughts and prayers”?
Seems you guys just can’t take your own words thrown back at you.
Boy howdy how that is true.
Trump says he’s coming after us (power of the state) for criticizing Charlie Kirk
Stephen Miller says the full power of the state will be mobilized to dismantle the left- including choice words about the Democratic Party.
Pam Bondi also says she’ll be using the power of the state against those whose speech is not acceptably deferential to Kirk.
People are being targeted.
Compare to the free speech used by the President of the United States when he made fun of the hammering of Paul Pelosi.
For that matter, compare to the free speech used by Charlie Kirk in the matter of Paul Pelosi’s hammering.
Apparently, when the right does it, that’s “free speech”, but when the left does it, that’s a subversive crime worthy of being smashed by the full power of the state.
I have never made fun of Charlie Kirk’s murder/assassination, but I have criticized Charlie Kirk for his words, and I will continue to do so because that is my right……… a right that is sadly being dismantled before our very eyes.
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That's still wrong. People can hate Charlie Kirk and his support for President Trump and not support Robinson. They can insult you and not support Robinson.
It’s a matter of opinion. The callousness of some here leads me to think otherwise.
DH is having a good day today freeing me up to do some posting.
But I must take leave now.
Thank you for your civility, made a better time for me at the Board.
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You people in fact
Which planet are you from? 'Cause it sure ain't THIS one !!
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...and it took me a few seconds to find them.
Ah, yes! How could I have forgotten ChatNPC? Sorry, I thought you meant the blanket term.
I reserve that nickname for one guy, a serial insulter and mendacious individual who has done nothing but debate dishonestly for over 2 decades. A poster who flings more mud than a Monster Truck in a dirt arena. If you're using him as some means to highlight disproportionate behavior, you really aren't reading the board very closely.
No need - I'll stipulate that there's lots of times where people here have called the right Nazis. Unlike the term "NPC," though, the term "Nazi" is used in countless contexts that aren't necessarily insults,
Now we're done. The term has been thrown around so much it's lost all meaning.
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After years of dismissing our anger over the deaths of children gunned down by yet another idiot with a gun , dismissing us as “using the bodies of children to advance our agenda of grabbing guns”….Dismissing your anger? No, more like rejecting the shameless political ploy for advancing an agenda for what it was: A shameless political ploy meant to advance the left wing agenda.
And after years of hearing Republican politician after Republican politician offer “thoughts and prayers”, or vague words (and little else) about “mental health” but nothing else to address the problem, do you really wonder why we might respond to Charlie Kirk’s death with “thoughts and prayers”?Given this board is made up mainly of atheists who mock prayers all the time, it's understandable that they don't/can't/won't relate to the sentiment being offered.
Pam Bondi also says she’ll be using the power of the state against those whose speech is not acceptably deferential to Kirk.I'll give you this point, and cite an article from a source you hate that agrees with you:
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/09/16/bondi-t...What Bondi threatens, however, is using the power of government to compel business owners into either silence or a particular political message. Jack Phillips has spent more than a decade fighting that in Colorado, and is still fighting that to this day. Bondi is way out over her skis on this issue, and either needs to retract that threat or perhaps reconsider her role in this administration. Charlie Kirk got killed because he wanted more speech, and this is not the way to honor his life. In fact, I'll cite two:
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/09/16/pam-bond...Oh, for God's sake. This is not only ridiculous and against the law, but it is also precisely what we have been fighting against for the past several years. There you go. There's 1,000,000,000,000 more consideration to a point you just made than the entire history of this board has ever given to a point somebody on the right makes.
You're welcome.
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Now we're done. The term has been thrown around so much it's lost all meaning.
Not at all. I meant that when I search for the term, I kept getting tons of hits that had nothing to do with you - or even domestic politics. Lots of hits on discussions of right-wing parties in Europe, and in Germany specifically. Discussions of the Reichstag era in Germany. Etc.
So unlike NPC, which only appears in one specific context on the board (that I ever saw), the term "Nazi" is not easy to search for instances where it is being applied directly to a person.
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Dope1:
I reserve that nickname for one guy, a serial insulter and mendacious individual who has done nothing but debate dishonestly for over 2 decades. A poster who flings more mud than a Monster Truck in a dirt arena. If you're using him as some means to highlight disproportionate behavior, you really aren't reading the board very closely.Umm, if you mean me, here are my last 50 posts. Knock yourself out and substantiate your claim.
https://www.shrewdm.com/MB?command=authorDetails&u...
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LMAO...what a very selective memory you have.
No rightie here routinely likens the left to one of history's most genocidal movements on the daily.
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At last! A school shooting that Conservatives care about!
But not enough to do something about the proliferation of guns in this country. They just want to use it to demonize the left, not fix the problem.
--Peter
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2. People who believe with every fiber of their being that the right wing IS full of nothing but white supremacists and Nazis
I don't think everyone thinks that at all. You are probably 10% hard core white supremacists, and another 20% how could come to believe, not sure what % would be nazis, but if y'all did take over, it would grow.
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She is fulfilling her function as a provocateur.
As in beach volleyball, she consistently sets the ball for Dope who consistently spikes the ball hard....into the net.
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So unlike NPC, which only appears in one specific context on the board (that I ever saw), the term "Nazi" is not easy to search for instances where it is being applied directly to a person. ChatNPC is a video game not released yet, but with a description on Steam: "Immerse yourself in ChatNPC, a retro pixel-art adventure where every conversation unlocks new stories."
Language that portrays people as animals or NPC has historically been used to incite violence. To me, such language on Shrewd'm is unacceptable. This language is not clever, it is evil. There are plenty of other ways to insult someone, and insults can even be done with wit as Churchill demonstrated.
Nazi history is being brought up because Trump is using it as a playbook to topple democracy.
The shooter may not be part of any wing, but might be a nihilistic violent extremist. Probably not, and the F.B.I. might let us know in court documents. The world is more complicated than just left and right. I have read that U.S. young adults are unhappy. Really unhappy. More depressed, more anxious, lonelier, and more likely to go to the hospital for self-inflicted injuries than in any previous decade. Old adults are busy insulting each other, leaving major problems for the next generation to solve, while the next generation watches anxiously, wondering where the world is heading, and what career paths will remain after the A.I. boom. Raising a teenager has gotten extremely challenging.
Nihilistic Violent Extremism: A Valuable Stride Forward in American Counterterrorism, May 21, 2025
"In court documents, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) deployed a new term of art to describe Casap: “Nihilistic Violent Extremist.” It was only the second time such language had been used, indicating a potential sea change in how federal agencies conceptualize and investigate domestic terrorism cases."
https://www.justsecurity.org/113463/nihilistic-vio...
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I have stalkers that literally follow me from board to board hurling insults.
Stalkers.... identify yourselves now or Shrew'd gets reported to Spankee's gang !
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER 8-0
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I have stalkers that literally follow me from board to board hurling insults.
You're annoying other boards? Show them to Jedi and LM.
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Unlike the term "NPC," though, the term "Nazi" is used in countless contexts that aren't necessarily insults, but discussions of the actual time period in Germany -
On Sunday I asked my mom her thoughts on the whole Charlie Kirk 'situation.'
She's 94, very smart. Zero dementia. Born in Berlin, her immediate family (Jewish)got out just in time. The rest did not.
She was a teacher at Stephen Miller's high school (Samohi) where he is persona non grata.
She said, in reference to CK and the Trump Admin.... "Nazis!"
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You do realize that when you post that, every one of your interlocutors believes that you're describing yourself, not your opponents? That you're utterly unable to realize how your posting style has been a "knee in the b@lls" to people you disagree with for quite a while - and you're not able to see yourself doing it?
See the little sad face? It's a troll killer. Hit it and kill a troll.
