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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Project 2025...
Date: 06/26/24 7:52 PM
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So it's okay to violate *their* rights in your mind?

No, it's not. But their rights haven't been violated, in spite of what your handlers at Fox and NewsMax are telling you.

Carter Page is one. The FBI gave a bogus justification to the FISA court, then fabricated evidence.

No, that's not OK. But let's not forget that there were two other FISA requests for surveillance of Page that were obtained without lies and fabrications. That doesn't make the lies OK, nor does it mean Page is innocent. The guy appears to be a Russian spy.

Wow, they threw the book at him. Not.

Clinesmith was tried and found guilty for lying to get the FISA warrant. I'm sorry you don't like the punishment, but that doesn't mean the justice system is broken. Judges have a lot of discretion in sentencing, and they use it. That's the way justice works in the US. If you want to argue that this represents a two-tiered justice system, I wouldn't argue against that. The well-off and white generally get better treatment than the poor and colored. Heaven help you if you are both poor and a person of color. That's the real problem.

--Peter
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