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If by "major anomaly" you mean exploded on the launch pad before starting its flight test.

And, man, that sucker blowed up real good.

Watch here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/19/us/spacex-rocke...

Kinda like the Space Shuttles that "blew up real good"
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I guess the class had to have a substitute teacher the next day and got to throw spitballs.

Kinda like the Space Shuttles that "blew up real good"

Two space shuttles over the span of a 30 year shuttle program.

Musk matches that in almost any given week.

The difference being that NASA shuttles were manned.


I wonder if Musk will be able to find astronauts

Now the libdullards are commenting on engineering.

Here, on behalf of everyone in my professional field: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Tell me you don't know anything about engineering - or for that matter, building things that are hard to build - without telling me you don't know anything about engineering or building things that are hard to build.

Learning from failure is a part of life. Come to think about it, the people yelling at Elon probably have no clue what learning from failure is all about.

Learning from failure is a part of life

Dear EdgeLord Dope-

I imagine that prospective astronauts might be learning something very valuable about their chances for survival by watching all of those rockets owned by a ketamine fueled fool- blowing up.

What??? You say I am obviously stoopid because I don’t understand that these flights are and will remain unmanned?

It’s hard to populate Mars and the stars by sending up unmanned spacecraft, unless you’ve got the latest scoop on how machines will pop out humans.

At what point does Space X run out of money? When it blows up another fifty rockets? Or when it faces the cleanup bill for producing over half of the space junk now in low orbit?

Dope1: Learning from failure is a part of life.

Well, what exactly has Elmo learned?

He went from blowing up rockets before reaching orbit to the even bigger failure of blowing up a spaceship that's still on the ground.

That's called 'regression.'

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA backatcha.

I imagine that prospective astronauts might be learning something very valuable about their chances for survival by watching all of those rockets owned by a ketamine fueled fool- blowing up.

Go look back at NASA footage from the 1950s. Tell me what you see.

Now tell me what Alan Shepard's stress level was when he was the first American sitting on top of his Redstone.

What??? You say I am obviously stoopid because I don’t understand that these flights are and will remain unmanned?

I will never say you're stooopid. Woefully ill-informed about engineering and the test/learn/test process? 100%.

At what point does Space X run out of money? When it blows up another fifty rockets? Or when it faces the cleanup bill for producing over half of the space junk now in low orbit?

Lulz. SpaceX owns the reusable launch market. Do you understand what their cost per launch is versus, say, Ariane or ULA? BTW Falcon 9's success rate is 99.4%.

Go look back at NASA footage from the 1950s. Tell me what you see.

I get that, dope. However, why is SpaceX recapitulating the rocket failures of the 1950’s? You’d think they would have learned something from those failures. Apparently not.

I get that, dope. However, why is SpaceX recapitulating the rocket failures of the 1950’s? You’d think they would have learned something from those failures. Apparently not.

You get that Starship has 33 engines and is a unique design, right?

I hope none of you ever have kids who work in a lab. Stuff happens. If OSHA ever got near a typical universoty lab they'd go nuts. Mine in particular had

-A wind tunnel ate a big piece of aluminum, causing blades to eject out the back
-High pressure oil lines letting go
-Refrigerant lines blowing up, flooding the lab with R-134 gas

Another one had compressors blow up, punch through the roof, and land somewhere out on the street (before my time there).

...on and on.

Stuff happens when you're working on it.

without telling me you don't know anything about engineering or building things that are hard to build.

You mean as the Republican'ts did with Spankee? His own mother said he was incompetent.

on the plus side, musk knows neither incompetence nor his fake fight w/trump affects hard dollar cronyism for record spacex\starlink federal contracts.

i wonder if this, and doge failures, will appear on musk's mandatory 'what i did this month' review for the affected groups.

Ok so the Shit Shuttles killed people.

Musk didn't.

Got it.

I guess the Shit Shuttles were abortions ---in the eyes of the self segregated 401K Liberals.



(Or we can just say exploration - does have accidents and move on)

No, on 2nd thought don't. More divisions, more topics. more more more.

Lol@ government shuttles. It's raining men, hallelujah.

Ok so the Shit Shuttles killed people.

Musk didn't.

Got it.

I guess the Shit Shuttles were abortions ---in the eyes of the self segregated 401K Liberals.

The higher, the fewer, but only on Saturdays. Trump will let us know in “two weeks”.


401k liberals are pretty much like 401k conservatives in that respect. Both groups eat green beans.


But the BIG question on the lips of people everywhere…… when the final page of history is written and Christ comes in glory on the clouds of heaven….. the big question, the preeminent question is….. Whose wife will she be?

when the final page of history is written and Christ comes in glory on the clouds of heaven

IOW, when the "nice Jewish boy" returns (he won't because God already laid out the requirements). That "nice jewish boy" does NOT meet the requirements stated by God.

So, GOD GOT IT WRONG--right? LOL !!!

It is so much better to have the Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly happen on the launch pad for the people on Earth below the flight path. Maybe Elmo is growing some empathy.

Not likely.

IOW, when the "nice Jewish boy" returns (he won't because God already laid out the requirements). That "nice jewish boy" does NOT meet the requirements stated by God.

As a Jewish rabbi once told me:

“When the Messiah comes, none of us will be upset if it turns out to be Jesus of Nazareth.”

That's what you get when you "privatize".

Sure...NASA had some spectacular early failures. We only ever lost three people in the Apollo program (none in Gemini or Mercury). We did lose two space shuttles. So, two shuttles and one Apollo (on the pad during a rehearsal). In 60 years. How many SpaceX have been lost in just the past two years, trying to do something (i.e. a simple launch) that NASA figured out a long time ago?

We should rejuvenate NASA, and make it the premier space agency that it once was.

We should rejuvenate NASA, and make it the premier space agency that it once was.

You miss the point. We must now privatize everything so that the oligarchs can accumulate ever more wealth.

You miss the point. We must now privatize everything so that the oligarchs can accumulate ever more wealth.
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Yes but your Goldman Sachs friends also participate.

Who do you think will enjoy the FEES for "administering" all that $1000 Trump Baby Account money?

And don't cry crocodile tears. the Fake paper assets that Club 401K worships will benefit as there will be even more money chasing after the same bloody S and p 500.

The focus isn't oligarchs.

The focus is -- as more people hit bottom, how can the be nudged to "direct" their ire at .....Club 401K.

People are quietly testing things, and working on it.

Strange bedfellows have actually spoken in person about it recently.

Patience.

More libs discussing things they know literally zero about, I see.

My favorite is the claim that “NASA figured it out a long time ago”. Wonder how many reusable rockets NASA has landed? The answer is zero.

libs. Always not just a bit wrong, but not even in the same galaxy as right. Every. Single. Time.

And what KEEPS them liberal is an inability to learn.

I wonder if NASA spent time and $$$$ studying the feasibility of reusable rockets and abandoned them as impractical at that time. They seem to still be impractical. Of course that may be because of my inability to learn.

That was part of the development of the Shuttle. The main fuel tank burned up, but the twin rockets were recovered and reused, as well as the Shuttle itself.

There was some thought about utilizing the fuel tank rather than letting it burn, but they stopped that line of investigation when they announced the phased retirement of the shuttle program.

We also have on the drawing boards (I'm not sure how far along it was) a new heavy lift rocket, but that also has mostly been shelved because of budgets and private rocket companies. The SLS is a beast, and -unfortunately- "expendable". I think the "boosters" are reusable, as with the old shuttle. If it gets funded further, they would probably be able to put some thought into reusing the main section in some manner*.



*Most of what I've read involves using the discarded sections in space, rather than trying to control reentry and recovering/using them on the ground. The controlled reentry is out of 1950s sci-fi, and SpaceX has made it work...most of the time. They also don't do really heavy lift yet, like SLS.

Since someone will come along and say “bbbut Dope is… <insert inane thing here>, let’s leave these here:

https://newsletter.spacedotbiz.com/p/launch-landsc...

…as one primer.

If you libs could reason without letting your 3rd grade emotional impulses rule you, you’d understand these numbers:

https://spaceinsider.tech/2024/07/31/ula-vs-spacex...

SpaceX is the biggest launch company in the world. Until the recent failure, its Falcon rockets launched roughly every 2.8 days and kept a running streak of over 300 successful missions. In 2023’s fourth quarter, the rockets lifted 382,080 kilograms in spacecraft to orbit: about 318 times what ULA sent up (SpaceX’s closest competitor was China’s state-owned contractor at 40,810 kg). SpaceX is the go-to contractor for NASA missions, launching astronauts, cargo vessels, and space probes; it’s also popular with the US Space Force and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). But while it dominates the commercial satellite launch scene too, about two-thirds of the company’s launches carry its own Starlink internet satellites, building up a thousands-strong constellation in Low Earth Orbit (LEO). The service is designed to be SpaceX’s money-printing machine as it ramps up plans to colonize Mars.

SpaceX OWNS the reusable launch market. There’s nothing like it out there.


A thinking person might ask, “If they can refly the same rocket over and over again, doesn’t that make each launch cheaper?” Yes it does.

The technical challenge of landing a first stage is amazing. Landing a second stage is exponentially more difficult, which is what Starship is intended for.

I wonder if NASA spent time and $$$$ studying the feasibility of reusable rockets and abandoned them as impractical at that time. They seem to still be impractical. Of course that may be because of my inability to learn.

Well, the reusable SpaceX Falcon 9 has been flying great for close to 500 launches. (https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/falcon-9/) Of course, it too exploded a lot in the early days.

As this point, I wouldn't bet a whole lot of money against Starship eventually becoming highly reliable.

Wonder how many reusable rockets NASA has landed?

How many of those "reusable" rockets have landed on the moon and then RETURNED to earth?

NASA did THAT in 1969.

So, Eloon is just trying to copy what NASA has already done.

I wonder if NASA spent time and $$$$ studying the feasibility of reusable rockets

The tech did not exist then to do it. Computing power didn't get to that point until well after 2000--or likely after 2010.

Plus, using much newer materials that did NOT exist then is another key point.

Then, add in the fact all the NASA tech was GIVEN to SpaceX at no cost. So they did NOT have to "start from scratch".

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