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- Manlobbi
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No. of Recommendations: 10
So far, we actually do have an example of a MAGA cult member changing his mind. There was one juror in Trump's hush money trial who said he got his news only from Truth Social. If this juror had found the defendant guilty, Trump would have walked free. However, our MAGA hero had to show up in court every day, and be presented with physical evidence in the form of illegal payments, and hear testimony against this crime boss every single day. It's only when you hear people sworn to tell the truth with penalty of perjury, and have the evidence shoved in your face that you change your mind.
But if you're a cult member, its easy to be surrounded by like-minded cult members, because you're not confined to a court room having physical evidence like stolen national security documents shoved in your face. And watching video of a mob attack the Capitol, and assaulting the police while the crime boss instigator did nothing. Because you can live in your own little bubble and deny that any of these things took place.
On the other hand, those of us who still know right from wrong, know how the Constitution works, well we see right through the adjudicated rapist and convicted felon. We're not going to let him get anywhere near the White House come November.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Meant to say, "If this juror had found the defendant NOT guilty..."
No. of Recommendations: 2
Lulzies.
Call them names; that’ll work fine.
No. of Recommendations: 0
On the other hand, those of us who still know right from wrong, know how the Constitution works, ...
Do Dems really know that? I absolutely doubt it.
Right to abortion is good. Making a woman carry an embryo/fetus/baby is wrong. But if the constitution doesn't grant that right, and the Rights enumerated in the constitution are left to the states, then should the states not decide?
I'm not saying it's a great system because for insurance for example, why should 50 states have 50 laws instead of one national law? Insurance is insurance it's impersonal. The probabilities work the same everywhere the same way. But that's not my call.
No. of Recommendations: 0
NOT enumerated...
No. of Recommendations: 0
Nominate Harris.
That turns this Biden voter in to a Trump voter.
Mind you the Punishment factor accelerates under Kamala....
Ok now I'm tempted.
No. of Recommendations: 5
Call them names; that’ll work fine.
I thought you liked name callers. Your name caller in chief called our troops "suckers" and "losers".
Look up the definition of cult in the dictionary - "a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.", e.g., "a cult of personality surrounding the leaders"
No. of Recommendations: 15
Do Dems really know [right from wrong]? I absolutely doubt it. Right to abortion ...
When I say "right from wrong", I'm talking about the law, both criminal and civil.
If you want to debate abortion with me, that's fine. What used to be the law (Roe v Wade) has changed, and it's a complex topic. The law here differs from state to state. This is an area where we can find common ground, e.g., making an exception for the life of the mother, and disallowing it after X number of weeks.
But a candidate who's broken the law is a non-starter for me. Doesn't matter to me if the candidate is a Democrat or Republican, a criminal is a criminal. Bob Menendez is a Democratic Senator accused of taking bribes. I'll never support him or vote for him. It's because I know right from wrong, in the legal sense.
With Trump, the list is long, both civil and criminal:
- Found guilty of sexually abusing and defaming E Jean Caroll
- Found guilty of defrauding banks by overstating the value of his assets
- Illegally used his "Trump Foundation" charity for misusing its funds for political purposes.
- Found guilty of falsifying business records to hide a payment he made to a porn star in order to influence the 2016 election (a crime that Cohen went to jail for, and John Edwards almost went to jail for)
- Arrested for a conspiracy and racketeering to overturn the 2020 election by installing fake electors in the State of Georgia (for which several of his co-conspirators have already pleaded guilty)
- Arrested for refusing to surrender national security documents he stole from the White House
- Arrested for conspiring to defraud the United States, to disenfranchise voters, and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding by instigating the Jan 6 attack on the Capitol.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Except that he didn’t.
If Trump is so awful, why do people like you have to lie about him the entire time? You’d think it would be easy to construct an argument - any argument - against the guy.
But you can’t. Is the mental rot *that* bad? I guess it is.
No. of Recommendations: 8
Except that he didn’t.Yes, he did.
"Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over
disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about
service members and veterans.
"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all
‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family — for all Gold Star families — on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john... Also, on July 18, 2015, then-candidate Trump said this about John McCain: “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
You’d think it would be easy to construct an argument - any argument - against the guy. But you can'tOf course it's easy. In case you didn't read my argument in message #21351, here it is again.
Trump
- Found guilty of sexually abusing and defaming E Jean Caroll
- Found guilty of defrauding banks by overstating the value of his assets
- Illegally used his "Trump Foundation" charity for misusing its funds for political purposes.
- Found guilty of falsifying business records to hide a payment he made to a porn star in order to influence the 2016 election (a crime that Cohen went to jail for, and John Edwards almost went to jail for)
- Arrested for a conspiracy and racketeering to overturn the 2020 election by installing fake electors in the State of Georgia (for which several of his co-conspirators have already pleaded guilty)
- Arrested for refusing to surrender national security documents he stole from the White House
- Arrested for conspiring to defraud the United States, to disenfranchise voters, and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding by instigating the Jan 6 attack on the Capitol.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Yes, he did.
Not according to numerous others. libs are also lying about "very fine people" and a ton of other things.
Again, if he's so awful, the case should be easy to make...but you people can't make it.
You've never learned the first rule of campaigning: you have to campaign FOR something. You can't just dump on something the entire time and claim "the other guy is worse".
No. of Recommendations: 3
You can't just dump on something the entire time and claim "the other guy is worse".
It worked last time.
No. of Recommendations: 4
<You can't just dump on something the entire time and claim "the other guy is worse".>
<<It worked last time.>>
Technically it was "the other guy is much much worse!"
No. of Recommendations: 13
Dope1:
Not according to numerous others. Who? Please name them.
Over here in the real world, John Kelly
issued a statement on record to confirm Trump's comments and mechinv quoted from his statement. Here's more:
John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN.
Kelly set the record straight with on-the-record confirmation of a number of damning stories about statements Trump made behind closed doors attacking US service members and veterans, listing a number of objectionable comments Kelly witnessed Trump make firsthand.
“What can I add that has not already been said?” Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France. How delusional do you have to be not to believe a statement from Trump's longest serving Chief of Staff?
Only a guy who cannot bring himself to admit that Trump removed some of the nation's most highly classified military and intelligence documents and left them unprotected in an unlocked bathroom and on an easily accessible ballroom stage... and actually shared one with journalists, admitting on audio that the information was top secret, that he did not de-classify it, he no longer had authority to de-classify it, and that he should not be sharing it.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/politics/john-kelly...
No. of Recommendations: 2
Over here in the real world,
...over here in the real world, this quote of yours
“A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them.’ A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family – for all Gold Star families – on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.
...is merely him repeating the charge.
Reading isn't your strong suit anymore, ChatNPC. Go download some new firmware.
No. of Recommendations: 2
You’d think it would be easy to construct an argument - any argument - against the guy. But you can't
the only response I can think for that asinine statement is...WTF?!
