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Author: DrBob2   😊 😞
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Subject: A one-year backtest!
Date: 08/20/2025 8:59 AM
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AQR’s ‘Hard to Believe’ Study Spurs Clash Over AI Use for Quants
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/aqr-hard-believe-st...
Quant traders, who use rules-based strategies derived from data analysis, have long believed their models get less effective when they become too complicated. That’s because they suck in too much of the distortive noise that makes predicting markets such a challenge in the first place.

But a researcher at AQR Capital Management has sparked a backlash with a study claiming the opposite — that rather than being a liability, bigger and more complex models might offer advantages in finance. The paper, titled , showed that a US stock market trading strategy trained on more than 10,000 parameters and just a year of data beat a simple buy-and-hold benchmark.

“This idea of preferring small, parsimonious models is a learned bias,” said Bryan Kelly, head of machine learning at AQR and one of the paper’s three authors...

After digging into the details of the study, Nagel concluded that because the model was dissecting just 12 months of data, it was simply copying signals that had worked more recently. In other words, it was following a momentum strategy — a well-established trading approach.

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Author: elann 🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: A one-year backtest!
Date: 08/20/2025 7:51 PM
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Amateurs!
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Author: FlyingCircus   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A one-year backtest!
Date: 08/20/2025 7:59 PM
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Nagel concluded that because the model was dissecting just 12 months of data, it was simply copying signals that had worked more recently. In other words, it was following a momentum strategy — a well-established trading approach.

... and isn't that what we would expect? A one year backtest trained on 10,000 parameters (most of which are irrelevant or coincident) is as predictive as a one year backtest trained on 10? I mean... that's not even momentum trading.

imagine the cocktail conversation - "I beat the S&P this year by 2% by paying x$$$ for a service that trades based on 10,000 parameters."...

I want the model Bradley Cooper's character used in Limitless.
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: A one-year backtest!
Date: 08/21/2025 12:11 PM
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showed that a US stock market trading strategy trained on more than 10,000 parameters and just a year of data beat a simple buy-and-hold benchmark.


Hmmmm...
"beat a simple buy-and-hold benchmark"

It did so for how long out of sample?

I don't care if it's memorizing all the data in the universe for the year up to a given date, and has to be re-run every month, if it demonstrated that it could keep on predicting what will do well the next month. If it works for six years after the system was built, sign me up.

Jim
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Author: DrBob2   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: A one-year backtest!
Date: 08/21/2025 6:31 PM
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If it works for six years after the system was built, sign me up.

It might me rather expensive at that point...

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