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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48449 
Subject: Migrant Crime
Date: 07/19/2024 11:29 AM
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Throughout the first three days of the Republican National Convention, officials have highlighted a surge in what they call “migrant crime.” President Biden “has welcomed into our country rapists, murderers, even terrorists, and the price that we have paid has been deadly,” Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas claimed last night. The day before, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas said, “Every day, Americans are dying” in crimes committed by migrants. Donald Trump has made similar remarks on the campaign trail.

Just more lies for the ignorant cult.

But there is no migrant crime surge.

In fact, U.S. rates of crime and immigration have moved in opposite directions in recent years. After illegal immigration plummeted in 2020, the murder rate rose. And after illegal immigration spiked in 2021 and 2022, murders plateaued and then fell.

Over a longer period, there is no relationship between immigration and crime trends. The number of foreign-born Americans has increased for decades, while the murder rate has gone up and down at different times




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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48449 
Subject: Re: Migrant Crime
Date: 07/19/2024 1:03 PM
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Yep. This point has been made over and over, but even the intelligent MAGA-ites don't seem to grok.

That is a tell-tale sign of a cult. While you're in it, no matter how smart you are, you just don't see the truth. Which is why I'm starting to come around to the notion that MAGA (and specifically Trump) is a cult of personality.
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Migrant Crime
Date: 07/19/2024 2:37 PM
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Over a longer period, there is no relationship between immigration and crime trends. The number of foreign-born Americans has increased for decades, while the murder rate has gone up and down at different times - ges

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Silly rabbit, murder rates and crime rate are different things.

BTW, crimes experienced by about 1/3 of the US population are not represented in the FBI statistics due to the number of states not using the FBI newest crime statistics reporting tool.
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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Migrant Crime
Date: 07/19/2024 2:43 PM
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BTW, crimes experienced by about 1/3 of the US population are not represented in the FBI statistics due to the number of states not using the FBI newest crime statistics reporting tool.

They're supposed to be there by October. And, silly rabbit, there has always been less crime overall by immigrants, and less reported in immigrant communities due to fear of reporting. Fear of reporting went waaayyyy up under Trump = can you guess why? Remember when Turmp wanted to commandeer all local police into an immigrant sweep? How well did that work - not very well at all.
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