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Remember Afghanistan..
Indeed, we should.
2,459 soldiers were killed during the Afghanistan war, which started under the Republican’s watch.
There were 44 soldiers that were killed in action during the Trump presidency. Trump has stated that he doesn’t believe any of them were qualified for the Medal of Honor because they were shot with a lot of bullets and dead.
13 soldiers were killed under the Biden presidency.
How many U.S. soldiers are alive because Biden and Harris had the wisdom and fortitude to get out of the Afghan quagmire?
By the way, I had to Google it to ensure my math was correct, but 44 is more than 13.
And yes, J6 has nothing to do with the subject. One involved brave American soldiers that made the ultimate sacrifice for their country. The other involved an American traitor.
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There were 44 soldiers that were killed in action during the Trump presidency,In the time frame of four years mind you..during Trump’s presidency.
2,500 Americans Have Died in Afghanistan and Iraq Under President Obama and Vice President Biden.
Don’t forget Biden flat out lied no soldier has died under his watch.
“Mr Biden said no service members had been killed under his watch, but 13 died during the US withdrawal from Afghanistan.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA9kHOacPvoBiden says US ‘shall respond’ after drone strike by Iran-backed group kills 3 US troops in Jordan
Three U.S. service members died and at least 34 were wounded this weekend in a drone strike at a base in Jordan near the Syrian border
https://apnews.com/article/biden-american-service-...https://www.allsides.com/news/2024-01-29-1022/poli...More: Read the entire article of Biden’s failure as commander in chief....
“THE FACTS ABOUT BIDEN’S FAILED WITHDRAWAL:
On July 8th, 2021, Joe Biden said: “There’s going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the United States from Afghanistan.”
In fact, it was actually much worse. We saw videos of Afghans clinging to the outside of planes during takeoff, with many falling to their deaths.
Afghans who were turned away threw themselves on razor wire surrounding the airport rather than face torture at the hands of the Taliban, according to firsthand testimony.
More than 800 Americans were abandoned behind enemy lines in Afghanistan for months.
The administration admitted initially that they did not know how many Americans remained in Afghanistan.
President Biden’s disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan led to OVER $7 BILLION in U.S. military equipment is now in the hands of the Taliban.“
https://www.gop.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?Docum...
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And 13 were killed....(11 Marines, 1 Navy corpsman, 1 SoldierJust as we lost troops while exiting Vietnam. We are going to lose some troops while exiting, and that's just how it is. I
DO note this: most of the people pushing this theme never served. I was in the military watching as we evacuated from Vietnam. My barracks was full of guys who wanted to go to Vietnam, yes - wanted to go. I have friends from my service days who still talk about being conflicted they couldn't get into a combat zone. Whereas I was serving and didn't want to go to Vietnam.
I would have preferred that Trump hadn't attempted to negotiate there. It was the DOHA Agreement signed by Trump that is blamed by Generals for the problem in Afghanistan.
SNIP “The signing of the Doha agreement had a really pernicious effect on the government of Afghanistan and on its military – psychological more than anything else, but we set a date – certain for when we were going to leave and when they could expect all assistance to end,” McKenzie said.
He was referring to a February 29, 2020, agreement that the Trump administration signed with the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, in which the US promised to fully withdraw its troops by May 2021 and the Taliban committed to several conditions, including stopping attacks on US and coalition forces.
The stated objective was to promote a peace negotiation between the Taliban and the Afghan government, but that diplomatic effort had failed to gain traction before former US President Donald Trump was replaced by President Joe Biden in January. Snip
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Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, testifying alongside McKenzie, said he agreed with McKenzie’s analysis.
He added that the Doha agreement also committed the US to ending air attacks against the Taliban, “so the Taliban got stronger, they increased their offensive operations against the Afghan security forces, and the Afghans were losing a lot of people on a weekly basis”. SNIP
So once troops got below 2500, the Afghan government effectively collapsed. The Taliban moved in - they were just outside and looking at the people in front of the airport in the last days. The initial plan was to airlift 40,000 people out - in the end we got 125,000 people out. Kinships mean a lot in that part of the world.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/30/us-genera...
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SNIP “The signing of the Doha agreement had a really pernicious effect on the government of Afghanistan and on its military – psychological more than anything else, but we set a date – certain for when we were going to leave and when they could expect all assistance to end,” McKenzie said.Then on the other hand..
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“Top generals contradict Biden, say they urged him not to withdraw from Afghanistan
Gen. Frank McKenzie said that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.
McKenzie also acknowledged that he talked to Biden directly about the recommendation by Gen. Scott Miller, the commander of U.S. Forces Afghanistan until July, that the military leave a few thousand troops on the ground, which Miller detailed in closed testimony last week.
“I was present when that discussion occurred and I am confident that the president heard all the recommendations and listened to them very thoughtfully,” McKenzie said.”
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Then Biden lied..
“During the interview, Stephanopoulos asked Biden point blank: “So no one told — your military advisers did not tell you, “No, we should just keep 2,500 troops. It’s been a stable situation for the last several years. We can do that. We can continue to do that”?
Biden answered: “No. No one said that to me that I can recall.””
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/28/top-gener...Biden went on with his disastrous withdraw from Afghanistan, not heeding his Generals advice.
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Biden went on with his disastrous withdraw from Afghanistan, not heeding his Generals advice.
But it was a success Lurker Mom, we got out of there, even with the bad deal from the prior admin. It was just never going to be easy. And to pull off getting 120,000 people out is pretty good. I just didn't care for the spectacle.
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And by the way, VP Harris was the last one leaving the room after the wrong decision was made by Biden.
She didn’t speak up to say this is wrong, but agreed with Biden.
VP Harris is as much to blame as Biden.
Tells me she will not be any better than Biden as a commander in chief.
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She didn’t speak up to say this is wrong, but agreed with Biden.
VP Harris is as much to blame as Biden.
That's the conclusion you wanted for the purposes you wanted. I just interpreted she has experience in seeing how these decisions are made - good or bad. She doesn't make the decision, and, as far as I can tell, she had nothing to do with the decision other than being in the room. Her job is to support the President, and that she did. She did her job.
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... she had nothing to do with the decision other than being in the room. Her job is to support the President, and that she did. She did her job. - Lambo
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I understand the necessity of separating Harris from the Biden Admin, but even if she was "required" to suppress her own very good policy ideas to demonstrate fealty, there remains her own record expressed in her own campaigns before she was VP. Plenty to work with there.
That said, she cannot avoid criticism for her association with the results of the Biden Admin policies. She certainly would be taking credit for the Biden Admin successes, if there were any.
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I understand the necessity of separating Harris from the Biden Admin, but even if she was "required" to suppress her own very good policy ideas to demonstrate fealty, there remains her own record expressed in her own campaigns before she was VP. Plenty to work with there.
That said, she cannot avoid criticism for her association with the results of the Biden Admin policies. She certainly would be taking credit for the Biden Admin successes, if there were any.
She can avoid anything that doesn't stick, and Afghanistan won't stick, no one believes she made that decision. Statements that she also makes in support of Joe can be used, but ultimately if those statements supported her boss's policies there's a good possibility they won't stick unless she reups during her candidacy. So she's looking good at this point. Try as you might, you still haven't got anything to stick - she's eluding you.
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Seems the 'bots didn't get the memo:
https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1825524164649681...White House Comms Director Ben LaBolt: "Vice President Harris has been the governing partner for every key decision that the president has made in his term in office."So, yes. Harris owns it all.
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So she's looking good at this point. Try as you might, you still haven't got anything to stick - she's eluding you. - Lambo
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Anything?
Harris, when she was running for president and free to express her own sincerely held beliefs, said she would close all ICE detention centers, adding "on day 1" for emphasis.
Please tell me how this one does not stick.
Suggestion, embrace it but rationalize it with she was going to close them only temporarily while they were spruced up with fresh paint, more air conditioning, larger TV's and new sheets and pillows from Mike Lindell to make their stay more comfortable.
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Anything?
They wish. When even the Washington Post calls you out...that's a problem.
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She doesn't make the decision, and, as far as I can tell, she had nothing to do with the decision other than being in the room. Her job is to support the President, and that she did. She did her job.What Dope1 said
“Seems the 'bots didn't get the memo:
https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1825524164649681...
White House Comms Director Ben LaBolt: "Vice President Harris has been the governing partner for every key decision that the president has made in his term in office."
So, yes. Harris owns it all.”
Thanks Dope1, that about sums it up.🤔
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White House Comms Director Ben LaBolt: "Vice President Harris has been the governing partner for every key decision that the president has made in his term in office."
So, yes. Harris owns it all.
No, Dope, you have to get it to stick. No one believes that Harris was the President and Trump has had direct experience at f'ing things up and failed coups. Trump is very suited for the MAGA side, but his campaign is so poor he isn't representing you well.
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Anything?
Harris, when she was running for president and free to express her own sincerely held beliefs, said she would close all ICE detention centers, adding "on day 1" for emphasis.
Please tell me how this one does not stick.
Suggestion, embrace it but rationalize it with she was going to close them only temporarily while they were spruced up with fresh paint, more air conditioning, larger TV's and new sheets and pillows from Mike Lindell to make their stay more comfortable.
I think you are confusing that she said something in a previous campaign with something sticking. You have to wait a bit to see if anything sticks. *AND* It has to be something that's worthwhile. You want something to stick that stops the hemorrhaging of voters from your side.
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I think you are confusing that she said something in a previous campaign with something sticking. You have to wait a bit to see if anything sticks. *AND* It has to be something that's worthwhile. You want something to stick that stops the hemorrhaging of voters from your side - Lapsody</I
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And I think you are attempting to redefine the meaning of sticking.... rather than "sticking" meaning the accusation that she said it cannot be denied, so it it "sticks" to her, you are adding a new qualifier...
Since you can't refute that she actually said close the ICE detention centers, you are now appending a qualifier that something, while true, only sticks if it reduces the hemorrhage of voters.
