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No. of Recommendations: 7
More specifically, a highly sensitive binder...10" thick.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/us/politics/tru...Material from a binder with highly classified information connected to the investigation into Russian efforts to meddle in the 2016 election disappeared in the final days of Donald J. Trump’s presidency, two people familiar with the matter said.
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The matter was so concerning to officials that the Senate Intelligence Committee was briefed about it last year, a U.S. official said.
No. of Recommendations: 11
PUTIN SOUGHT TO HELP TRUMP? No kidding.
"A binder holding top-secret intelligence that contributed to a U.S. assessment that Russia tried to help throw the 2016 U.S. election to
Donald Trump has been missing since the last days of his presidency, a source familiar with the issue said."
"The Office of the Director of National Intelligence in January 2017 released an assessment that found Russian President Vladimir Putin and
his government conducted a campaign of disinformation and cyberattacks to help Trump’s election chances."
"The disappearance of the binder ignited such deep concerns that the government last year offered to brief the Senate Intelligence Committee, which accepted, the source said."
For those suffering from Foxmania I'll spell it out for ya...
Putin helped Trump, Trump stole the documents that showed how.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/binder-with-top-s...
No. of Recommendations: 3
Yes, I read about this.
The gist is that somehow Trump thought the doc showed the Russian involvement was a hoax, when it showed just the opposite, so he wanted his aids to make copies and distribute it to Republicans. Intelligence found out and, alarmed at what T was doing, wanted sources redacted. In the midst of that in the end of days :) one disappeared. Hutchison testified she thought Meadows took one home. Meadows atty denied that for him. So we don't know what happened to one unredacted copy of the doc. Nothing ever got distributed.
No. of Recommendations: 14
In the midst of that in the end of days :) one disappeared. Hutchison testified she thought Meadows took one home. Meadows atty denied that for him. So we don't know what happened to one unredacted copy of the doc. Nothing ever got distributed.
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This is another reason why every prosecutor involved with any of these cases needs to be EXTREMELY cautious about plea deals and EXTREMELY cautious about ANY grant of immunity. Despite 2+ years of investigation, it is not at all clear that ALL potential criminality has been identified. A poorly worded plea deal or outright grant of immunity could be delivering a far greater gift than warranted by whatever is being offered as testimony in return.
In general, the entire dymanic around Mark Meadows since the original January 6 committee effort and subsequent federal and state prosecutions is bothersome. Given the deference afforded Meadows with months of back and forth negotiations about testimony, etc., one could conclude Meadows was a lynch pin, the lead make-it-happen figure in the Trump White House, like a Rahm Emmanuel for Obama, a James Baker for Reagan, or in the worst sense a Haldeman for Nixon.
In reality, Meadows was an intellectal and political zero who helped organize the circular firing squad within the Republican caucus known as the Tea Party and chose some of its first targets in seven years serving as a US Representative for North Carolina. The only reason someone of Meadows' caliber and character was inside the White House as Chief of Staff is becase of the caliber and character of the President. No one else would take the position with possibly less than a year in office left, pending an election that was already looking iffy in March 2020 due to COVID's impacts on the economy.
Once in that position, anecdotes from Cassidy Hutchinson indicate Meadows provided no guardrails around the crazies Trump brought on to feed his paranoid, racist theories of election fraud. As Meadows himself indicates, he took it as his job to call the meetings, order the pizzas and catering after hours, etc. Gotta keep the crazy train running on time. Finally, on January 6, Meadows couldn't be disturbed from his doom scrolling on his phone to interrupt Trump during the rioting and assaults on Capital Hill and DC police to prod Trump to publicly call for an end to the violence. Even if he "knew" what Trump's internal mindset was, he had an obligation to the American people to get in front of Trump and DEMAND action.
It sounds perfectly in character for Meadows to have participated in stealing one of the few unredacted copies of an intelligence brief that could provide incontrovertable proof of Trump's willing acceptance of Russian interference in the 2016 election. The idea that prosecutors could be pondering ANY plea deals or immunity deals with someone so undeserving is itself a sign of how flawed the criminal justice system has become.
WTH
No. of Recommendations: 10
WTH: It sounds perfectly in character for Meadows to have participated in stealing one of the few unredacted copies of an intelligence brief that could provide incontrovertible proof of Trump's willing acceptance of Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Clinton was right about Trump when she said: "With him, all roads lead to Putin."
Still waiting for the Trump cultists here who couldn't stop criticizing Clinton for mishandling classified information -- certainly an important reason she lost the election -- to say one negative word about the boxes of secret, top secret, Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) and Special Access Program (SAP) documents Trump left in an unlocked bathroom and on a ballroom stage at Mar-a-Lago.
And now it turns out that intelligence information that could get our human assets killed -- or reveal national secrets to the Russians -- has been missing since Trump lost the election and left the White House.
And you people want to reelect this POS.
No. of Recommendations: 4
And you people want to reelect this POS.
Which is what I don't get.
I get that they don't want a democrat. Fine. But right now they have several Rep candidates to choose from, and Trump is beating all of them combined. Why aren't they lining up behind Christie, or Desantis, or Haley? That I don't get. Trump is just so awful in every way; incompetent, venal, narcissistic, an egocentric megalomaniac. Yet they are going to vote for him in the primaries.
I wonder if the Founders foresaw this when they made up the voting rules. Originally, senators were appointed (for example). The VP was voted separately. Etc.
No. of Recommendations: 2
And you people want to reelect this POS.
There are numerous videos on youtube of interviews with people who claim that "Trump is the greatest President we've ever had" or other words to that effect.
THAT is insanity.
No. of Recommendations: 2
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“Too Funny – CNN Begins Apoplexy Narrative Around “Missing” 10 Inch Declassified Dossier That Details Trump-Russia Conspiracy
December 15, 2023 | Sundance | 374 Comments
Big picture #1 – The FBI/DOJ is now seriously worried that President Trump will win the 2024 election.
Big picture #2 – CNN (Natasha Bertrand, Evan Perez and Zachary Cohen) mouthpieces for the FBI Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy fraud, now begin positioning defenses against Trump’s evidence of the fabrication. They want to proactively stop the dossier they know consists of the evidence.
FACT: The authors know all the details about the 10-inch-thick dossier that was given by Trump to the DOJ for declassification 1/20/21, but shout that it is now missing.
FACT: The raid on Mar-a-Lago came after President Trump filed a 108-page civil lawsuit [SEE HERE] in March 2022 against the coconspirators. Including: Hillary Clinton, Hillary for America Campaign Committee, DNC, DNC Services Corp, Perkins Coie, Michael Sussmann, Marc Elias, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Charles Dolan, Jake Sullivan, John Podesta, Robby Mook, Phillipe Reines as well as Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, Orbis Business Intelligence, Christopher Steele, Igor Danchenko, Neustar Inc., Rodney Joffe, James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith and Andrew
The DOJ was given one copy of the 10″ binder to release publicly. Now ask yourself, what documentary evidence was used to write the lawsuit? lolol, duh!”
Lots more
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/...
No. of Recommendations: 2
No. of Recommendations: 8
LurkerMom:
Lots more
https://theconservativetreehouse...Seriously, do you read
anything that's not a questionable resource?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-last-refuge/: QUESTIONABLE SOURCE. Overall, we rate The Last Refuge (Conservative Treehouse) as far-right biased and questionable based on the use of poor sources, promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, a complete lack of transparency, and numerous failed fact checks.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Seriously, do you read anything that's not a questionable resource?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-last-refuge/: QUESTIONABLE SOURCE. Overall, we rate The Last Refuge (Conservative Treehouse) as far-right biased and questionable based on the use of poor sources, promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, a complete lack of transparency, and numerous failed fact checks.For Gawd sake commonone, stop it with your nonsense from your left wing rag what is acceptable or not according to the blog founded by a left wing socialist and run by left wing nuts.
Of course they don’t want anything published that exposes the left wing dems and socialists lies.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Seriously, do you read anything that's not a questionable resource?
No, LM does not. Truth and reality might destroy belief in Trumpism. Better to just stay in the safe cocoon of the RW media sphere.
No. of Recommendations: 2
No, LM does not. Truth and reality might destroy belief in Trumpism. Better to just stay in the safe cocoon of the RW media sphere.
Poor ges, sick to the core with TDS. Makes me laugh.
No. of Recommendations: 10
Your sources are consistently unreliable. It's not about left or right. It's about factual and not factual. There are several entities out there that assess sources for accuracy, as well as bias. They will call out Daily Kos just as fast as Gateway Pundit for inaccuracy. Those entities are not "left wing socialists" simply because they say your favorite publications are lying to you.
I'm reminded that Fox got a lot of blow-back when they called the election for Biden. Their viewers didn't want to hear that, and took it out on Fox. Which is wrong. They (for once) reported the truth to their viewers. Apparently a lot of them just wanted their opinions affirmed, regardless of the facts. Sticking with unreliable publications is one way of doing that, and you're certainly free to do it. But then you can't be surprised if people consider you misinformed.
You're sounding like that blonde on OANN (I forget her name) that uses similar wording, and makes huge leaps of (il)logic. I tried watching a bit of that, but it was clear that their viewers were those who thought Fox was too left-leaning and sensible.
Anyway, you do you. But a lot of folks will continue to call you on your dubious sources. Not trying to be mean. Just addressing your exasperation at people telling you your sources are bad.
No. of Recommendations: 0
Your sources are consistently unreliable
The posts are reliable all right, you and cohorts don’t like the source revealing the truth, such as the nonsense you introduced in this thread.
No. of Recommendations: 9
It isn't nonsense. Verified by multiple sources. You are woefully misinformed, at least about most of the topics posted on this board. You're not stupid, so it has to be deliberate. My "cohorts" all want the truth**, even if we don't like it. That's the difference between your cohorts and mine. As programmers sometimes say, "garbage in, garbage out". Your sources are utter garbage, so one can't expect any reasonable conclusions from that input.
As I said, if you want to remain blissfully ignorant, that is your right. Or enragedly ignorant (your sources rely on triggering rage to get more clicks). But we'll continue to call you on your crappy sources EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Lest someone stumble on one of your posts, and takes it seriously.
**Or if "truth" is too philosophical a word, then "facts".
No. of Recommendations: 1
Your sources are utter garbage
So says the Biden follower....the crime family boss liar in chief.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Wow, you managed to fit both a logical fallacy, and a factual error in less than one sentence.
