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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-ice-...In April, José Hermosillo, a 19-year-old from Albuquerque, spent ten days in detention before the government acknowledged he was a citizen and dismissed his deportation case. In Florida, highway-patrol cops enforcing the state’s new anti-immigration laws arrested a 20-year-old and tried to transfer him to ICE custody — even after his mother provided his birth certificate. A Puerto Rican U.S.-military veteran was detained during a workplace raid in Newark, New Jersey, in January. Some citizens have even been deported, all of them children deported along with their parents, including a 2-year-old American-born girl deported to Brazil who is now effectively stateless.
If Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrests you for an immigration-related offense, and you tell the agency you are a citizen, it might not release you. Citizenship isn’t something that you wear on your body. Maybe you pull an ID, a passport, or even a birth certificate, but agents frequently assume these are fake. In that case, you will be taken to a detention center run by a private prison company. You can tell the guards there that you’re a citizen, but they’ll likely respond with some version of “tell it to the judge.” Your immigration-court appearance could be weeks, or even months, away. You will wait behind bars. There’s no right to counsel in immigration court — if you can’t afford a lawyer, you’ll have to represent yourself. When you finally see the inside of a courtroom, it could be what ICE calls a “mass removal” hearing with dozens of other defendants. You won’t have a chance to talk to a judge. After reading this article, Sci-fy writer John Scalzi wrote an article worth reading. Proof of citizenship is unaffordable for a large segment of the population. That is a feature not a bug.
https://whatever.scalzi.com/2025/06/03/well-can-yo...
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YOUR?!
Good grief, YOU'RE!
I need an edit button or a delete button.
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Ignore my incorrect correction.
I'm going into lurker mode since reading, writing, and typing are beyond me today.
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YOUR?!
Good grief, YOU'RE!
Your first spelling was correct.
You’re being too hard on yourself.
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I pointed this out before. As I recall, I was chatting with BHM. I could NOT prove my citizenship quickly. A copy of my birth certificate (official, not the hospital certificate with the footprints...found out that isn't actually valid when I was sponsoring 1poorlady on a fiancee visa) is in our small safe. Passports, too.
None of us -likely- could prove it on a random traffic stop. Who carries "papers"?
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I do, but it's almost by accident. I got a passport card for TSA when I was traveling weekly. I never took it out of my wallet.
TBH I hadn't considered the "papers please" scenario, but I should have. I made sure my husband always has his Green Card.
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