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Author: abromber   😊 😞
Number: of 15059 
Subject: Moody's Downgrade US Debt
Date: 05/17/2025 11:50 AM
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U.S. Loses Last Triple-A Credit Rating

The U.S. has lost its last triple-A credit rating.

Moody’s Ratings (partially owned by BRK) downgraded the U.S. government on Friday, citing large fiscal deficits and rising interest costs.

"Expanding budget deficits mean U.S. government borrowing will rise at an accelerating rate, pushing interest rates up over the long term, Moody’s said. The firm said Friday that it didn’t believe that any current budget proposals under consideration by lawmakers would do anything significant to reduce the persistent gap between government spending and revenues.

"The move strips the U.S. of its last remaining triple-A credit rating from a major ratings firm, following similar cuts by Fitch Ratings in 2023 and S&P Global Ratings in 2011. Moody’s downgraded the U.S. to Aa1, a rating also held by Austria and Finland.

“Successive U.S. administrations and Congress have failed to agree on measures to reverse the trend of large annual fiscal deficits and growing interest costs,” Moody’s wrote in a statement.

https://www.wsj.com/economy/central-banking/u-s-lo...

I note we are now on par with Finland, the happiest country in the world, so maybe this is good news.

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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Moody's Downgrade US Debt
Date: 05/17/2025 12:01 PM
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I note we are now on par with Finland, the happiest country in the world, so maybe this is good news.

Or not...
"The U.S. currently ranks 23rd in the World Happiness Report, its lowest position ever, falling out of the top 20 happiest countries."

"The U.S. hit an all-time low ranking in the annual World Happiness Report, tumbling eight spots to 23rd."

"It's the first time since the report launched 12 years ago that the U.S. did not rank among the world's 20 happiest countries."

https://www.axios.com/2024/03/20/world-happiness-a...
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Author: rayvt 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Moody's Downgrade US Debt
Date: 05/17/2025 12:40 PM
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An interesting factoid. Means nothing.
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Author: abromber   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Moody's Downgrade US Debt
Date: 05/19/2025 12:38 PM
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An interesting factoid. Means nothing.

Not sure which factoid you were denigrating. The one about happiness is admittedly subjective, but not irrelevant if true. The one about the bond downgrade may be more consequential, as it indicates a weaker dollar, which is (probably) intentional. Yields up is good news for BRK - at least in the short run, but inflation is coming.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-toda...

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Author: rayvt 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Moody's Downgrade US Debt
Date: 05/19/2025 4:21 PM
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"An interesting factoid. Means nothing."

Not sure which factoid you were denigrating.


The downgrade. Has happened more than once historically.

The thing to keep in mind is "The standard is not perfection. The standard is the alternative."

Despite the absolutely horrible deficit and continuing annual deficits, the US is still financially strong in the world. It won't be forever, but it is currently. The other pertinent quote is "That which cannot go on forever, won't."
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