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Author: abromber   😊 😞
Number: of 21107 
Subject: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/23/26 8:35 AM
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I was one of the lucky ones who got BRK shares when it acquired Gen Re in 1998. At the time, Warren published an “Owner’s Manual” for new owners like me who were not familiar with BRK. In it, WEB stated, “At the time of the Blue Chip merger in 1983, I set down 13 owner-related business principles that I thought would help new shareholders understand our managerial approach. As is appropriate for 'principles,' all 13 remain alive and well today."

Here are the principles. My question: Are they still alive and well 33 years later? Numbers 2 and 11 are of particular interest to me: Does the Board have enough skin in the game, and will BRK sell any of its operating companies? Number 7 about using debt may also require revision, given what BRK is doing in Japan.

I would appreciate hearing others' observations and comments. If Greg is lurking, I would especially like to know what he thinks.

OWNER-RELATED BUSINESS PRINCIPLES:

1. Although our form is corporate, our attitude is partnership. Charlie Munger and I think of our shareholders as owner-partners, and of ourselves as managing partners. (Because of the size of our shareholdings we are also, for better or worse, controlling partners.) We do not view the company itself as the ultimate owner of our business assets but instead view the company as a conduit through which our shareholders own the assets.

2. In line with Berkshire's owner-orientation, most of our directors have a major portion of their net worth invested in the company. We eat our own cooking.

3. Our long-term economic goal (subject to some qualifications mentioned later) is to maximize Berkshire's average annual rate of gain in intrinsic business value on a per-share basis. We do not measure the economic significance or performance of Berkshire by its size; we measure by per-share progress. We are certain that the rate of per-share progress will diminish in the future - a greatly enlarged capital base will see to that. But we will be disappointed if our rate does not exceed that of the average large American corporation.

4. Our preference would be to reach our goal by directly owning a diversified group of businesses that generate cash and consistently earn above-average returns on capital. Our second choice is to own parts of similar businesses, attained primarily through purchases of marketable common stocks by our insurance subsidiaries. The price and availability of businesses and the need for insurance capital determine any given year's capital allocation.

5. Because of our two-pronged approach to business ownership and because of the limitations of conventional accounting, consolidated reported earnings may reveal relatively little about our true economic performance. Charlie and I, both as owners and managers, virtually ignore such consolidated numbers. However, we will also report to you the earnings of each major business we control, numbers we consider of great importance. These figures, along with other information we will supply about the individual businesses, should generally aid you in making judgments about them.

6. Accounting consequences do not influence our operating or capital-allocation decisions. When acquisition costs are similar, we much prefer to purchase $2 of earnings that is not reportable by us under standard accounting principles than to purchase $1 of earnings that is reportable. This is precisely the choice that often faces us since entire businesses (whose earnings will be fully reportable) frequently sell for double the pro-rata price of small portions (whose earnings will be largely unreportable). In aggregate and over time, we expect the unreported earnings to be fully reflected in our intrinsic business value through capital gains.

7. We use debt sparingly and, when we do borrow, we attempt to structure our loans on a long-term fixed-rate basis. We will reject interesting opportunities rather than over-leverage our balance sheet. This conservatism has penalized our results but it is the only behavior that leaves us comfortable, considering our fiduciary obligations to policyholders, lenders and the many equity holders who have committed unusually large portions of their net worth to our care. (As one of the Indianapolis "500" winners said: "To finish first, you must first finish.")

8. A managerial "wish list" will not be filled at shareholder expense. We will not diversify by purchasing entire businesses at control prices that ignore long-term economic consequences to our shareholders. We will only do with your money what we would do with our own, weighing fully the values you can obtain by diversifying your own portfolios through direct purchases in the stock market.

9. We feel noble intentions should be checked periodically against results. We test the wisdom of retaining earnings by assessing whether retention, over time, delivers shareholders at least $1 of market value for each $1 retained. To date, this test has been met. We will continue to apply it on a five-year rolling basis. As our net worth grows, it is more difficult to use retained earnings wisely.

10. We will issue common stock only when we receive as much in business value as we give. This rule applies to all forms of issuance - not only mergers or public stock offerings, but stock- for-debt swaps, stock options, and convertible securities as well. We will not sell small portions of your company - and that is what the issuance of shares amounts to - on a basis inconsistent with the value of the entire enterprise.

11. You should be fully aware of one attitude Charlie and I share that hurts our financial performance: Regardless of price, we have no interest at all in selling any good businesses that Berkshire owns. We are also very reluctant to sell sub-par businesses as long as we expect them to generate at least some cash and as long as we feel good about their managers and labor relations. We hope not to repeat the capital-allocation mistakes that led us into such sub- par businesses. And we react with great caution to suggestions that our poor businesses can be restored to satisfactory profitability by major capital expenditures. (The projections will be dazzling and the advocates sincere, but, in the end, major additional investment in a terrible industry usually is about as rewarding as struggling in quicksand.) Nevertheless, gin rummy managerial behavior (discard your least promising business at each turn) is not our style. We would rather have our overall results penalized a bit than engage in that kind of behavior.

12. We will be candid in our reporting to you, emphasizing the pluses and minuses important in appraising business value. Our guideline is to tell you the business facts that we would want to know if our positions were reversed. We owe you no less. Moreover, as a company with a major communications business, it would be inexcusable for us to apply lesser standards of accuracy, balance and incisiveness when reporting on ourselves than we would expect our news people to apply when reporting on others. We also believe candor benefits us as managers: The CEO who misleads others in public may eventually mislead himself in private.

13. Despite our policy of candor, we will discuss our activities in marketable securities only to the extent legally required. Good investment ideas are rare, valuable and subject to competitive appropriation just as good product or business acquisition ideas are. Therefore, we normally will not talk about our investment ideas. This ban extends even to securities we have sold (because we may purchase them again) and to stocks we are incorrectly rumored to be buying. If we deny those reports but say "no comment" on other occasions, the no-comments become confirmation.

14. AN ADDED PRINCIPLE: To the extent possible, we would like each Berkshire shareholder to record a gain or loss in market value during his period of ownership that is proportional to the gain or loss in per-share intrinsic value recorded by the company during that holding period. For this to come about, the relationship between the intrinsic value and the market price of a Berkshire share would need to remain constant, and by our preferences at 1-to-1. As that implies, we would rather see Berkshire's stock price at a fair level than a high level. Obviously, Charlie and I can't control Berkshire's price. But by our policies and communications, we can encourage informed, rational behavior by owners that, in turn, will tend to produce a stock price that is also rational. Our it's-as-bad-to-be- overvalued-as-to-be-undervalued approach may disappoint some shareholders. We believe, however, that it affords Berkshire the best prospect of attracting long-term investors who seek to profit from the progress of the company rather than from the investment mistakes of their partners.

The full Owner's Manual is available at https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/owners.html

abromber
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
Number: of 21107 
Subject: Re: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/23/26 9:11 AM
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" I was one of the lucky ones who got BRK shares when it acquired Gen Re in 1998. At the time, Warren published an “Owner’s Manual” for new owners like me who were not familiar with BRK. In it, WEB stated, “At the time of the Blue Chip merger in 1983, I set down 13 owner-related business principles that I thought would help new shareholders understand our managerial approach. As is appropriate for 'principles,' all 13 remain alive and well today."

Here are the principles. My question: Are they still alive and well 33 years later? Numbers 2 and 11 are of particular interest to me: Does the Board have enough skin in the game, and will BRK sell any of its operating companies? Number 7 about using debt may also require revision, given what BRK is doing in Japan."


To be fair that was written by Buffett 28 years ago. I'm sure Buffett would amend certain sections of the manual, today. Greg is putting ALL his after-tax income into brk common in the open market.

Other than putting a BRK tattoo on his forehead, our new leader can't be more committed than Greg is. Greg doesn't need the job, or the money, let's give him a few years to breath.
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Author: VIIIandXX   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/23/26 10:25 AM
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Principles should be examined over time, according to grok🤔

Examine your principles periodically with curiosity rather than defensiveness. Ask:
• What evidence would falsify or refine this?
• Does it hold across contexts?
• Am I clinging due to identity, fear, or sunk cost?
Strong principles provide direction without blinding you. The capacity to change them—when reason demands—is itself a principle worth keeping. Dogmatism calcifies; principled flexibility advances understanding. This aligns with a truth-seeking approach to the universe: models improve by discarding what doesn’t fit reality.
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Author: mungofitch SILVER
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Subject: Re: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/23/26 11:03 AM
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Number 7 about using debt may also require revision, given what BRK is doing in Japan.

No need to worry about this one.

Berkshire's leverage is way lower than it was in the past. Top level leverage (total assets over total liabilities) averaged 2.2 from 2013-18, and it's 1.7 now. That doesn't sound like much, but they'd have to borrow another $235bn to get back to the old normal leverage level.

The only reason for the yen debt to buy the Japanese position was because it was free (interest rate below inflation), and currency matched so that if the business value ever fell along with a falling yen, it would be made up for as a gain on the shrinking yen debt. (sounds like magic, but Berkshire misses out on the opportunity for the ex-US position to offer any protection against any potential fall in the US dollar)

Jim
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Author: mungofitch SILVER
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Subject: Re: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/23/26 5:28 PM
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The only reason for the yen debt to buy the Japanese position was because it was free (interest rate below inflation), and currency matched so that if the business value ever fell along with a falling yen, it would be made up for as a gain on the shrinking yen debt.

Just to follow up on that...it has been a very good decision so far, measured in US dollars. The debt taken on to buy the original position, assumed constant in yen, is down about 34% since then measured in US dollars. i.e., a 50% profit on money borrowed rather than money invested. Plus of course the big gains on the stocks.

On the other hand, if the dollar falls against the yen that pleasant effect would reverse.

Jim
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Author: AdrianC   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/26/26 10:40 AM
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9. We feel noble intentions should be checked periodically against results. We test the wisdom of retaining earnings by assessing whether retention, over time, delivers shareholders at least $1 of market value for each $1 retained. To date, this test has been met. We will continue to apply it on a five-year rolling basis. As our net worth grows, it is more difficult to use retained earnings wisely.

This was revised in 2010, according to RationalWalk (article from 3 years ago, well worth reading):

https://newsletter.rationalwalk.com/p/berkshire-ha...

The test was revised significantly after the 2009 annual meeting when a question regarding the original test made Warren Buffett realize that the wording did not reflect his intentions.

The revised earnings test reads as follows:

“I should have written the ‘five-year rolling basis’ sentence differently, an error I didn’t realize until I received a question about this subject at the 2009 annual meeting.

When the stock market has declined sharply over a five-year stretch, our market-price premium to book value has sometimes shrunk. And when that happens, we fail the test as I improperly formulated it. In fact, we fell far short as early as 1971-75, well before I wrote this principle in 1983.

The five-year test should be: (1) during the period did our book-value gain exceed the performance of the S&P; and (2) did our stock consistently sell at a premium to book, meaning that every $1 of retained earnings was always worth more than $1? If these tests are met, retaining earnings has made sense.”


According to my calculations, this test was met in 5-year periods ending in 2018 and 2019.
Berkshire failed in 5-year periods ending 2013-2017 and 2020-2025.
Buybacks over book value would skew the results a bit towards failure.

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Author: AdrianC   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/26/26 10:43 AM
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Rational's conclusion (from 3 years ago):
Conclusion
Warren Buffett has long recommended low-cost index funds as the ideal investment for individuals and has gone as far as to instruct the executor of his estate to invest the majority of his wife’s portfolio in the S&P 500. While I attribute part of Mr. Buffett’s stance on indexing to modesty and not wanting to appear self-promotional, there is no doubt that the S&P 500 has been a tough competitor for Berkshire in recent years.

Berkshire has still performed competitively, and one can argue that Berkshire is undervalued today while the S&P 500 is overvalued. I tend to agree with that line of thinking and am fine with Berkshire retaining cash, which it has done, in addition to repurchasing shares below intrinsic value. I would be far less happy with return of capital in the form of dividends since I hold the majority of my Berkshire stock in taxable accounts. I am sure that my distaste for dividends pales in comparison to how Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger feel about the topic give the size of their holdings.

A good question for next year’s annual meeting could be about how the retained earnings test should read today given that the reference to book value in the revised test no longer applies due to Berkshire dropping book value as a key metric. As far as I know, the retained earnings test has not been formally revised since 2010.

This also raises the question of whether there should be a specific mathematical test because such a test could tie the hands of Greg Abel and his successors in the future. Berkshire ultimately relies on what Charlie Munger has called a “seamless web of deserved trust”, not mathematical formulas, when it comes to stewardship. Assuming Berkshire’s culture remains intact, this will be as true in the future as it is today.


I wholeheartedly agree.

Are they buying back in volume? I wonder...
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Author: Munger_Disciple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/26/26 12:00 PM
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Buffett completely got rid of the retained earnings test in the 2018 annual report. Beginning in the 2019 report, Berkshire stopped showing the % increase in book value column in the performance table which now only compares the market price return of Berkshire stock to the total return of the S&P 500 index on an annual basis.

Also in the 2018 annual report, Buffett told us to focus on the Berkshire's stock price over the long term (though he didnlt define "long term") to judge if retained earnings are being wisely used. So I don't think Abel is going to put out another mathematical formula to replace the old retained earnings test.

We should follow Warren's advice and just focus on the long term growth in the price of Berkshire stock to see how the management is doing.
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Author: mungofitch SILVER
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Subject: Re: Owners Manual still relevant?
Date: 06/26/26 12:20 PM
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For me, the key thing is whether the *value* of a share (not price) is rising faster than the *value* (not price) of the S&P 500.
I believe that remains the case.

There will be times that the S&P does very well in price terms simply by becoming more expensive. That doesn't matter very much over time, because price growth beyond value growth is always transient.

This graph is about 2.3 years old, but it shows what I mean. The warm colours are tracking metrics of value for Berkshire, the cool colours some metrics for the S&P.
https://www.stonewellfunds.com/BerkshireAndSpyValu...
Note that these are metrics which correlate with the value of the S&P *index*. Total return progress adds some dividends to that, but can't be graphed the same way. It doesn't change the conclusion.

Jim
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