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Author: agehlot   😊 😞
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Subject: Question about RRS126-2sd
Date: 11/06/2024 12:39 PM
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I hope either Elan or Jim or any other expert can help me this question.
My question is that while calculating RS126-2sd, the slope is calculated using the log prices of the stock for last 6 months. Do I need to annualize the slope, since the 2*price volatility is annualized to subtract from the Slope?
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AJ
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Author: elann 🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: Question about RRS126-2sd
Date: 11/08/2024 5:18 PM
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I hope either Elan or Jim or any other expert can help me this question.
My question is that while calculating RS126-2sd, the slope is calculated using the log prices of the stock for last 6 months. Do I need to annualize the slope, since the 2*price volatility is annualized to subtract from the Slope?
Thanks in advance,


I don't think it makes sense to annualize a slope. Let's say you calculated the linear return slope on an annual chart. The slope you find would be the annual return. Now let's say you cut that chart in half, looking only at the first six months, or at the last six months. The slope of the line on the half year chart would not change. It would still represent the annualized return.

Elan
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Author: agehlot   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Question about RRS126-2sd
Date: 11/11/2024 12:57 PM
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Thanks Elan for your response and explanation.
I would appreciate if you would comment on which is the correct way in my calculations:

Method 1: when I calculate RRS126, in Excel I am calculating the Slope of N stocks taking the Log Prices for 126 days. To calculate 2SD, I am using the Excel function of STDEV.S for Log Returns of N stocks for 126 days as the first step. In the next step I am using STDEV. S *(252)^(1/2), which gives me “Annualized” Volatility of these stocks. As a final step, 2 times the annualized volatility (2sd) is subtracted form the slope (RRS 126).

Method 2: The difference from the first Method is that Multiplying the Slope calculated over 126 days with 252 to annualize it. For 2SD, it is the same as above which gives me “Annualized “volatility. The final step is the same as above, except the Slope has been multiplied with 252 to annualize it.

Based on the above methods I get different top 10 stocks for RRS126-2SD from the universe of T1 and T2 stocks from Value Line universe.

Thanks in advance.
AJ
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Author: elann 🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: Question about RRS126-2sd
Date: 11/11/2024 4:12 PM
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I would appreciate if you would comment on which is the correct way in my calculations:

Method 1: when I calculate RRS126, in Excel I am calculating the Slope of N stocks taking the Log Prices for 126 days. To calculate 2SD, I am using the Excel function of STDEV.S for Log Returns of N stocks for 126 days as the first step. In the next step I am using STDEV. S *(252)^(1/2), which gives me “Annualized” Volatility of these stocks. As a final step, 2 times the annualized volatility (2sd) is subtracted form the slope (RRS 126).

Method 2: The difference from the first Method is that Multiplying the Slope calculated over 126 days with 252 to annualize it. For 2SD, it is the same as above which gives me “Annualized “volatility. The final step is the same as above, except the Slope has been multiplied with 252 to annualize it.


As I wrote before, I think 2 is wrong because by "annualizing" you are doubling the slope. It has no effect on the ranking of stocks by RRS, but when you subtract the volatility measure it has half the effect on the doubled slope.

So I think method 2 is correct. There is one small difference from what I do. While I calculate RRS126, I calculate volatility (STDEV of returns) on a whole year's worth of price data. It should be over 252 days, but due to practical spreadsheet limitations I've shortened it to 248 days.

Elan
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Author: agehlot   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Question about RRS126-2sd
Date: 11/12/2024 5:27 AM
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Thanks Elan. As always you have been a great help in my understanding the concept.

However, did you mean Method 1 is correct?

You said:

As I wrote before, I think 2 is wrong because by "annualizing" you are doubling the slope. It has no effect on the ranking of stocks by RRS, but when you subtract the volatility measure it has half the effect on the doubled slope.

So I think method 2 is correct.




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Author: elann 🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: Question about RRS126-2sd
Date: 11/12/2024 8:59 PM
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However, did you mean Method 1 is correct?

Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry.

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