Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
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Last week there was an announcement about removing people listed as older than 120 from social security.
What I haven't been able to find is how many were receiving benefits. Has anyone seen that number? My guess is zero but I would like to confirm. A couple of MAGA in laws are hard to convince. If it was greater than zero I am sure it would be published.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/social-securi...Aussi
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This should help. There's a link to the report in the link below.
SNIP Additionally, a series of reports from the Social Security Administration’s inspector general in March 2023 and July 2024 state that the agency has not established a new system to properly annotate death information in its database, which included roughly 18.9 million Social Security numbers of people born in 1920 or earlier but were not marked as deceased. This does not mean, however, that these individuals were receiving benefits.
The agency decided not to update the database because of the cost to do so, which would run upward of $9 million.
A July 2023 Social Security OIG report states that “almost none of the numberholders discussed in the report currently receive SSA payments.” And,
as of September 2015, the agency automatically stops payments to people who are older than 115 years old. SNIP
https://apnews.com/article/social-security-payment...
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The agency decided not to update the database because of the cost to do so, which would run upward of $9 million. - Lapsody
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$9 million <snork>. Surely you can see this is a pretty lame excuse given the way the money gets spent by the Feds.
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$9 million <snork>. Surely you can see this is a pretty lame excuse given the way the money gets spent by the Feds.
No. I'd label this comment on the not understanding side.
1. They aren't getting paid.
2. We are going to spend $9 million to update a database that we don't care about at all? Justify that.
3. Need the $9 million elsewhere? Don't update until Musk makes a sensation out of it. Ask him for the $9 million.
4. Better yet, ask Mike for the $9 million and tell him you're taking it out of funds to build the wall. His choice. We'll call the gap in the wall "Mike's choice" though.
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Back in 1994 SS published a report on the percentage of people over the age of 99 were receiving SS. They found that of 43 million receiving SS benefits 40,583 over 99 were receiving them. That’s a little less than 0.7 percent. If you look at the SS actual life tables and sum the average number alive older than 99 divided by the average alive between 62 and 99 you come up with 0.63% which is slightly less than might be expected.
I’m sure there are a few cases of fraud but this rough analysis indicates that it is no were near the level some believe
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Lapsed, thank you for the very good information.
To put $9m into perspective, assume that a person working at Social Security on the telephone helping people has an all in cost of 200k per year. Assume they each help 10 people per day. $9m is 45 people working for 1 year helping 450 people per day, 2,250 per week or 112,500 people in that year.
Of course some people just don't care about helping people.
Aussi
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"$9 million <snork>. Surely you can see this is a pretty lame excuse given the way the money gets spent by the Feds." - BHM
LOL In defending your hero's lies you are trying to have it both ways. You are spinning yourself into a pretzel.
Why should they spend the $9 million when there is absolutely no reason to do so? Wouldn't that be a WASTE?
Face it, it wasn't a problem that ancient people were not listed as deceased in the database because they were not receiving any money and everyone knew about it. No problems were caused by it. None.
Then you hero Musk came along and needed a story to con his dumbass followers (like you) and get them all outraged so he spins it about non-existent 150-year-olds getting social security knowing you would lap it up because you don't care how foolish you look getting conned over and over again by the same people.
It wasn't a problem, there was no reason to spend any money fixing it. The only reason it is even in the news is becauswe there were ignorant people to be taken advantage of.
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Of course some people just don't care about helping people.
And that’s why so many government employees who were “helping people” have been fired by DOGE.
“helping people” just doesn’t compute with Elon and Big Balls.
