Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
No. of Recommendations: 10
So who is this guy and why should I care?
He is the first rioter to breach the Capitol building on January 6, 2021. He went in and hundreds of others followed.
Felony convictions: Obstruction of an official proceeding and civil disorder.
Misdemeanor convictions: Remaining in a restricted building and disorderly conduct.
Sentence: 53 months in prison, $2000 restitution.
Reporting says that at his sentencing, he expressed no remorse for his actions, only regret on the impacts to his family. He is also sorry that his actions didn't make a difference. The sentence was pretty much what the prosecutors asked for.
--Peter
No. of Recommendations: 2
Felony convictions: Obstruction of an official proceeding and civil disorder.
Misdemeanor convictions: Remaining in a restricted building and disorderly conduct.
Sentence: 53 months in prison, $2000 restitution.
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Don't know any details other than this post but based on the charges, it doesn't sound like he personally assaulted anyone, and with that caveat, the sentence of 53 months seems unduly harsh.
No. of Recommendations: 15
“… the sentence of 53 months seems unduly harsh.”
So in your view, breaking into the Capitol with the intent of obstructing the certification of the Presidential election is not that big a deal.
Now that you’ve showed me where you’re coming from, I’m not sure what else there is to say.
No. of Recommendations: 3
So in your view, breaking into the Capitol with the intent of obstructing the certification of the Presidential election is not that big a deal.
I didn't see this in the list of charges...
It did say "Obstruction of an official proceeding and civil disorder." But we have seen that all too often with activists disrupting the Senate during confirmation hearings. I am not sure those criminals even get charged, let alone serve actual prison time.
No. of Recommendations: 9
“I didn't see this in the list of charges...”
Oh, bullsh-t. What do you think his intention was?
No need to reply. You just want to dance around the reality we all saw with our own eyes. Sad.
No. of Recommendations: 14
Don't know any details other than this post but based on the charges, it doesn't sound like he personally assaulted anyone, and with that caveat, the sentence of 53 months seems unduly harsh.
53 months means he’ll be out in 2 years with 2 years of probation. That doesn’t sound “unduly harsh” for participating in a riot with intent to subvert the outcome of an election, at least to me.
It’s amusing to see observations from Conservatives arguing for “slap on the wrist” penalties for rioting with willful destruction of the property of Congress and trying to stop a lawful exercise of democracy, but demanding the most severe punishment imaginable (“can’t you just shoot them?”) when it’s brown people rioting somewhere else.
No. of Recommendations: 7
So in your view, breaking into the Capitol with the intent of obstructing the certification of the Presidential election is not that big a deal.
I didn't see this in the list of charges...
It did say "Obstruction of an official proceeding and civil disorder." But we have seen that all too often with activists disrupting the Senate during confirmation hearings. I am not sure those criminals even get charged, let alone serve actual prison time.
It's the difference between pressing up against a barricade and demonstrating (Kavanaugh confirmation), and the barricade being tossed out of the way, entering the building (with people in it) with the intent of totally stopping the legal process inside permanently and in such a way that law enforcement has to evacuate the lawmakers, some afraid for their lives, and it's an overwhelming force.
No. of Recommendations: 2
>>Don't know any details other than this post but based on the charges, it doesn't sound like he personally assaulted anyone, and with that caveat, the sentence of 53 months seems unduly harsh.<<
53 months means he’ll be out in 2 years with 2 years of probation. That doesn’t sound “unduly harsh” for participating in a riot with intent to subvert the outcome of an election, at least to me.
It’s amusing to see observations from Conservatives arguing for “slap on the wrist” penalties for rioting with willful destruction of the property of Congress. - goofy
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2 years, 2 months then probation? I was under the impression there is no parole for Federal convictions...
re: intent to subvert. I did not see that in the charges. Using a hate crime for analogy, the law specifically makes this intent an additional crime that may be charged. So is there some statute that makes the J6 intent more severe than disrupting a Senate confirmation hearing?
re: willful destruction of property. I did not see that in the charges. That aside, vandalism of property warrants more than a slap on the wrist and I never claimed it did not.
No. of Recommendations: 16
re: intent to subvert.
In the trial, it came out that he went to DC with the specific intent of disrupting the counting of the electoral college voting. He didn't go there to stand around outside and protest - which is generally a protected first amendment right. He went there to get inside the building and make them stop.
I don't know if that's a separate crime, but it sure seems to be covered by the obstruction charge. And it affects the sentencing, as does his lack of remorse for his crimes.
This dummy was another instigator of the insurrection. He deserves every second he spends in prison. He wasn't in on the planning, but he made it his mission to obstruct the proceeding.
--Peter
No. of Recommendations: 14
I didn't see this in the list of charges...
It's interesting how the Trump cult often suggests that 'common sense' needs to be considered in various situation, yet just as often rejects common sense.
Not every detail of a crime need be listed in an indictment. The invasion of the capital building, the intent of the invasion is crystal clear to anyone with an iota of common sense.
The insurrectionsists came to D.C. because Donald Trump asked them to come, assuring them "It will be wild." That, too, is not in the list of charges.
They marched on the capital and broke in with the intent to "fight", as Trump directed. "Peacefully?" Sure, he said that too (wink wink)and at the same time tried to get security stop magnetometer scanning because his mob 'wasn't there to harm him.'
That also wasn't in the Sparks indictment.
That the Trump Cult tries to diminish the event at every opportunity is a testament to their cult-like devotion to a sick sick man.
No. of Recommendations: 3
2 years, 2 months then probation? I was under the impression there is no parole for Federal convictions...
Ah, you may be right. Hooray. Then again if Trump wins his sentence will be shaved down to months, perhaps nothing if he is still out on appeal. No penalty! Just what the Trumpers want, as long as it’s not a Democrat.
No. of Recommendations: 8
Another person has their life ruined by Trump's lies...
9 people died as a result of the January 6th MAGA attack on the Capitol.
Over 150 officers were injured: 86 Capitol Police officers and 65 Metropolitan Police Department officers. (Back the blue? MAGA?)
At least 17 police officers remained out of work with injuries nearly five months after the Trump inspired attack.
More than 1,400 people have been charged with Jan. 6-related federal crimes. Over 900 of them have been convicted and sentenced.
Finally, if you are suffering from Foxmania and you still believe the Jan, 6th Trump inspired insurrection was just a "sight seeing tour"
here's an eye witness account from a law enforcement professional who was actually on the scene...
"If it wasn't my job, I would have done that for free.
It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection.
And we'll do it as many times as it takes." ~D.C. Police Officer Daniel Hodges
"a white nationalist insurrection."
No. of Recommendations: 2
No penalty! Just what the Trumpers want, as long as it’s not a Democrat.
What's the problem? You people defund the police, celebrate criminals and your Prez nominee sets up bail funds for rioters. Then your left wing judges let violent criminals walk with *zero* jail time.
Don't put on some black robes and claim you all care about law and order. Those of us who live under Blue Rule know better.
No. of Recommendations: 4
If we really want to make American great again, insurrectionists should be hanged.
No. of Recommendations: 12
<<So is there some statute that makes the J6 intent more severe than disrupting a Senate confirmation hearing?>>
In the case of Sparks, yes. Sparks was convicted of four misdemeanor offenses: entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, and parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building. He was also convicted of two
felony offenses: obstruction of an official proceeding and civil disorder.
Unlike Sparks, demonstrators who briefly interrupt a Senate hearing typically do not enter through a window they shattered using a police shield, nor do they confront and chase a Capitol police officer up a flight of stairs. Nor do they post on social media, as Sparks did, "We want a civil war," and "It's time to drag them out of Congress."
So, yeah, more severe.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/kentucky-man-se...
