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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Welcome, Shrewd — a quick, honest note
Shrewd’m is a free community of independent investors, and this is a place to learn — not to be sold to. No bank, broker or financial service sponsors these pages; nothing here is for sale — no products, no accounts, no funds, no fees. Everything is education and conversation, offered freely. We take a cheerful, irreverent view of Wall Street’s noise, because the whole Shrewd idea is that you think for yourself and take responsibility for your own decisions. In our experience the two truest marks of a happy life are wonderfully simple: staying in control of your own life, and keeping a mind that never stops learning. That is all this place is really for.
None of this is personalised financial advice — just ideas, shared in good faith, for you to weigh for yourself.
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BEFORE YOU READ — HAVE A GUESS
You have found and bought the right company, says Fisher. When is the right time to sell it?
Almost nobody gets this right, which is rather the point. Hold your answer in mind — the guide will settle it.

Phil Fisher: The Man Who Made Growth Respectable

Benjamin Graham taught investors to buy cheap. Phil Fisher taught them something harder and, over a lifetime, often more rewarding: to buy great, and to hold on.

When Fisher published Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits in 1958, most serious investors were bargain-hunters in the Graham mould — buy a dollar of assets for fifty cents, sell at ninety, repeat. Fisher looked at the same market and saw a different opportunity: a small number of genuinely superior businesses, growing for decades, whose long-run returns would dwarf anything a cigar-butt bargain could offer. Buffett famously described himself as “85% Graham and 15% Fisher” — but as the years passed and Berkshire shifted from cheap-and-mediocre to wonderful-and-fair, that Fisher fraction did an outsized share of the work.

Scuttlebutt: the homework nobody else does

Fisher’s signature method was scuttlebutt — the unglamorous legwork of talking to everyone around a company to learn what its financial statements can’t tell you. Not the CEO (who is paid to be optimistic), but the customers, the suppliers, the ex-employees, even the competitors. Are customers loyal or merely trapped? Do rivals lose sleep over this firm? Is the sales force excited or just clocking in? A Shrewd investor, Fisher argued, can build a picture of a business’s real quality that the crowd — staring only at this quarter’s numbers — completely misses.

What made scuttlebutt work was not access — Fisher was a one-man firm in San Mateo, not a Wall Street grandee — but persistence and arithmetic of a social kind. Ask five people who know an industry the same careful question and the answers will disagree; ask fifty and a shape emerges that no single interview could have given you. He reckoned that most of what an investor needs to know about a company is already known by somebody, scattered among people nobody thinks to ask, and that assembling it is ordinary work rather than genius.

And it remains available to a private investor today, which is the part worth taking personally. You cannot ring a chief executive, but you can read ten years of annual reports back to back and notice which promises were kept; you can read the trade press an industry writes for itself rather than for investors; you can talk to people who use the product for a living; you can compare a company’s job advertisements with its stated strategy and see whether it is hiring for the future it describes. None of this is glamorous, and that is precisely why the advantage survives — a Shrewd is simply somebody willing to do the unexciting homework the crowd skips.

The Shrewd insight: The market obsesses over the next quarter. Fisher’s edge was to understand the next decade — and to buy the rare company whose next decade was unusually easy to believe in.

Why so few investors copy him

Fisher’s method has been in print for nearly seventy years and is still rarely practised, for a reason worth naming plainly: it is slow, and it produces very few ideas. A professional judged every quarter cannot spend three months investigating one company and then conclude, honestly, that it is not worth owning. Fisher could, and did — he held only a handful of positions at a time and once described his best results as coming from “a very small number of decisions” made over decades.

The private investor’s advantage is exactly the constraint the professional lacks: nobody is measuring your quarter. That is the freedom the boards at Shrewd’m are full of people quietly exploiting, and it is worth more than any information edge.

But Fisher’s most contested idea — the one that still divides investors today, and the one worth a page of its own — is about price: what happens to a great company’s lofty valuation over time. Most investors assume a high multiple simply must automatically revert back to an average market earnings multiple (say 15x) over several years. Fisher understood why, for the truly exceptional business, it often doesn’t.

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