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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 8:41 AM
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With all that's going on, I've decided to take a break from reading Heather Cox Richardson, Joyce Vance and Olga Lautman (author of the Trump Tyranny Tracker). I just can't take knowing the full extent of the Trump admin's depravities, depredations and destruction directed at the Constitution, the American system of government and the world order. I'll "brush up" on the latest from the good people here, but that's it.

Up until today I still had some optimism that America would survive Trump. But no more. Will there even be valid mid-term elections in 2026? Will Trump EO-away the election in 2028 as "unnecessary" and just stay in power, Putin style? I can't honestly say these things are impossible any more.

And I'm too old and frail - I'm no wzambon, that's for sure! - that much as as I'd like to, I can't even "take to the streets" or "take up arms in rebellion" in defense of Liberty. (*) But I think that's what it will actually take to put an end to this. And it has to happen very soon or all will be lost. Another pipe-dream possibility is that there are a few closet honorable republicans left in Congress who finally come to their senses and vote for a dem-sponsored bill of impeachment of both Trump and Vance, and then threaten to take out next-in-line Rubio unless he also comes to his senses.

Nothing much cheers me up these days, and I find myself darkly hoping for that asteroid to just end the human race, or at least for another much more deadly novel virus to arise and send us all back to the dark ages where MAGA longs to be.

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(*) I actually considered buying a gun in my liberal NY State where I live "just in case the sh!t goes down" but I realized I'd be far more likely to use it blow my brains out before I'd otherwise use it.

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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 9:03 AM
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Yes, it is depressing.

The little town I live in is about evenly divided between right and left. But the Trumper/MAGA crowd shows no sign of any regret for their support of the destruction of American political values. They celebrate it.

Unless the trend is reversed, I see our country becoming much more like Putin's Russia, a kleptocratic autocracy with all power and wealth in the hands of a corrupt leader and his equally corrupt oligarch supporters. It is quite clear that that is the model Trump admires and desires to emulate.

WTF has happened to our country?
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Author: PucksFool 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 9:26 AM
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I understand how you feel and I try limit my intake of news too otherwise my depression becomes nearly unbe.

You might try listening to the Daily Beans Podcast.
https://www.dailybeanspod.com
NEWS. WITH SWEARING.
The Daily Beans is a women-owned and operated progressive news podcast for your morning commute brought to you by the webby award-winning hosts of Mueller, She Wrote. Get your social justice and political news with just the right amount of snark.


One of my favorite things about the podcast is that it ends with a listener submitted "good news" segment. Some of the stories are simply people sharing what they are doing to keep themselves going in these horrible times. Other times people share what they are doing to resist the fascist takeover.
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 9:48 AM
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And I'm too old and frail - I'm no wzambon, that's for sure! - that much as as I'd like to, I can't even "take to the streets" or "take up arms in rebellion" in defense of Liberty. (*) But I think that's what it will actually take to put an end to this.

Wzambon will “take to the streets” as long as he doesn’t have to walk more than a mile, stand for more than an hour, or march more than 200 yards to find a port-a-potty.

But wzambon is retired (as I assume you are).

So you and wzambon have time….

Time to make phone calls to congresscritters

Time to volunteer- in either political campaigns or agencies and social service organizations that have lost funding

Time to talk to our friends

Time to talk to strangers

Time to be decent human beings

And having worked all those years, we even have a few shekels to donate to the many good causes out there that need our support.


When you begin thinking you are too old, just remember that in 1776, when Benjamin Franklin signed the Declaration of Independence, he was 71-72 years old- and he served the country for many years after that……… most of that while sitting on his butt


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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 10:32 AM
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Parts of what's happening to give me fear or sadness.

But then I'm reminded about things.

And it makes me giggle.

Things that are happening, You People - deserve.

I think you people still have time. I maintain that the 2020's are your good ol' days.

A few things need to happen for punishment to truly get nasty and I don't mean your little shitty ass rights and freedoms. That's a done deal, those are MINE. The few things I have to be patient on:

*Other economies, partially thanks to Liberals giving away American Knowhow --are rising. Their economies are growing organically and their middle class demographics are awesome *but* it's never a straight line going up. Pitfalls, crashes, etc have yet to be absorbed.

*America's energy and resources are awesome and for now, Stalinist Liberals have been rejected and we're allowed to use said resources for American advantage. Maybe one day, when the Left is in charge that might change and that will also contribute to PUNISHMENT.

*Employment. You're still at close to full employment. I'm not sure how the A/I worker displacement will go. I don't think it'll be extreme in that it won't relegate a majority of workers useless, BUT it won't progress without SOME displacement.

I envision swaths of unemployed Americans. Many, thanks to bad culture without the grounding, without the family structure to persevere thru that. I envision them angry, and armed and easily influenced by domestic and foreign demagogues (sound familiar?). Not only will that mean mayhem and deserved violence and deserved FEAR, it means you'll have MORE drain to your social programs, and FEWER taxpayers---I'm hitting doubles and triples with this one!

Can this be overcome? Sure. But TRIBAL IDIOTS can't do that. Meaning you people can't fix this. You'll make it worse.

So enjoy these wonderful days.

One day you'll romanticize about the 2020's.

I love it!
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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 3:06 PM
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You might try listening to the Daily Beans Podcast.
https://www.dailybeanspod.com


Thanks. I'll check it out.

PS - I'm also done with Jeff Tiedrich's expletive filled take on things, as well ss Andy Borowitz's Onion-like vignettes. The crap going on is no longer funny to me. At all. It's just tragic.
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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 3:28 PM
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I loved this post so much.


Sheeple? See?

you are "getting it"
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Author: MisterFungi   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 3:45 PM
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I feel you. I still read the papers but severely limit watching TV news and commentary. I’m fortunate to be in a place where I can be active outdoors for hours on end, alone or in the company of a few friends. It’s helped greatly to keep me more or less on an even keel.

Some key cases are moving quickly toward the US Supreme Court. I read things written my responsible, knowledgeable people indicating that a majority on the Court recognize they must apply the brakes to this fast-moving train to an Orban-style “illiberal democracy.” Either they will or they won’t.

If they do, we’ve got a decent shot at making it to the mid-term elections, and perhaps Dems will accept responsibility for having lost touch with the valid concerns of regular Americans and seize the opportunity to secure majorities in Congress. I hope this is how things work out.

But if the Court folds, or if the Administration ignores it, then I’m outta here. I turn 76 in a few hours. I’ve fought the good fight since I was a teenager. I’ve organized. I’ve held elective office. I’m deeply grateful that I was able to teach and inspire hundreds, perhaps thousands, of university students over a 40-year career. I need some peace and quiet now. I’m fortunate to have the means to secure it, at least for a while.
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Author: AlphaWolf   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 4:29 PM
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I’m in my mid-70s and I’m still a fighter.

Part of Trump’s strategy, as well as the ignorant MAGA (I know, redundancy) crowd, is to wear you down. Won’t work on me.

Sure, nothing 24x7 is healthy. So pace yourself. Take a break from the board or turn off the TV for a few days. But, at the end of the day, this is an all hands on deck exercise.

I call and/or write to the politicians that represent me to let them know how I feel. Yes, even the Democrat ones. I subscribe to certain media to support them and get trustworthy news. I support people financially (like Mark Elias - Democracy Docket) who are fighting for the cause with great skill and success. Ms. Wolf and I just signed up to attend a local protest (part of a national protest) next Saturday. My job is to make signs, and they will be snarky and funny. I even watch some TV (Chris Hayes is a fav) to get information and get inspired. And I even throw some buckazoids to non-local politicians who are fighting for the cause.

I guess it’s just in my blood. I hate fascists, and Trump is talking and acting like a fascist. My response has always been, bring it on!

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Author: MisterFungi   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 6:33 PM
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<<My response has always been, bring it on!>>

I admire the sentiment, but without a tangible objective and a plausible strategy with which to achieve it, that’s all it is. If a majority of SCOTUS sticks with its “vigorous executive” theory and green-lights the current trajectory, I don’t see a plausible strategy. I really don’t.
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Author: AlphaWolf   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 6:50 PM
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I admire the sentiment, but without a tangible objective and a plausible strategy with which to achieve it, that’s all it is. If a majority of SCOTUS sticks with its “vigorous executive” theory and green-lights the current trajectory, I don’t see a plausible strategy. I really don’t.

Fight reality, not ifs.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 6:54 PM
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Ms. Wolf and I just signed up to attend a local protest (part of a national protest) next Saturday. My job is to make signs, and they will be snarky and funny.

Oh yes, today is protest Tesla day. Left wing mobs will be out protesting by setting Tesla cars
on fire, keying the cars and ripping off the mirrors, Shooting into the dealerships, spray painting
words like NAZI.

Well, hope you have fun and be careful not to get hurt.
Heard where one protester caught himself on fire torching a Tesla.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 7:26 PM
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(*) I actually considered buying a gun in my liberal NY State where I live "just in case the sh!t goes down" but I realized I'd be far more likely to use it blow my brains out before I'd otherwise use it.

A wise move. The stats agree with you. And we would all miss your input here.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 7:31 PM
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You might try listening to the Daily Beans Podcast.
https://www.dailybeanspod.com

Thanks. I'll check it out.


I like Muellershewrote, but I read here. I'm searching for something I can put on my phone and listen to while I walk. I started walking again and my legs got sore. Last time I remember sore legs was basic training in the Army. :)
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 7:42 PM
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Sure, nothing 24x7 is healthy. So pace yourself. Take a break from the board or turn off the TV for a few days. >/i>

Well, I think at first I was trying to keep up with and understand it all - gauge it. The city I'm in is peaceful. There's no brown shirts out taking out stores and beating and harassing people.... yet. I don't have the TV set up. I can get by with my PC, and I'm back to working on the house and hour long walks. I'm mo longer trying to keep up with all of it and am trying to get back to a normal life, and get in shape too. :) Tall order at 73, but I'll give it a shot. I tend to do well for a while and then drift off. Need to take up pickle ball with my wife.
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Author: AlphaWolf   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 8:05 PM
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Well, hope you have fun and be careful not to get hurt.
Heard where one protester caught himself on fire torching a Tesla.


Thank you for your concern.

First, the protest is in a park.

Second, I do not commit crimes and would gladly assist law enforcement if I saw a crime taking place. As an aside, I would never vote for a convicted felon either because, unlike you, I don’t just say I believe in law and order, I follow it up with my actions.

Third, I avoid any Tesla product like the plague. I won’t even ride in one.

P.S. Watching March Madness game Texas Tech vs. Florida. I’m rooting for the refs.
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Just so depressing...
Date: 03/29/2025 8:16 PM
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I don’t just say I believe in law and order, I follow it up with my actions.

Same here. Right down the line.

I only have contrmpt for the liars who claim to be for law and order, then vote for a convicted felon, and then CHEER as masked men disappear people who have committed no crimes into Salvadoran slave labor camps…. All with blatant disregard for due process.


Due process is the very bedrock of “law and order”



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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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I only have contempt for the liars who claim to be for law and order, then vote for a convicted felon, and then CHEER as masked men disappear people who have committed no crimes into Salvadoran slave labor camps…. All with blatant disregard for due process.


Here's the rub. If the courts don't hold up, somehow we have to get them to see that affording due process to those picked up by ICE, etc., is necessary to maintain the rule of law and democracy as we know it. And I'm not talking about Dope, Jedi, LM, or Mike, to whom this is an entertaining game. We need the rank and file of MAGA to understand that even though they hate illegals, etc., that by affording illegals due process they protect themselves and their families.

We agree criminal illegals and those in the country illegally can be deported with due process - so pass the damned funds already. I agree to any reasonable streamlining of the process. Even if we do it carefully we'll screw it up, but the process shaping up now is ship-out-illegals-with-no due-process-and-cheer.
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First, the protest is in a park.

Hope you and your protesters clean up after yourselves. The left is well know to leave
their garbage and dodo bags behind.

Who’s to notice you in a park and who cares? LOL

OH wait, I know who cares, the innocent Tesla employees who will eventually lose
their jobs because of the left mob protesters driving away potential Tesla car buyers.

You’re not hurting the richest man in the world, he has enough to get by on.
You’re hurting innocent family bread winners.

Aren’t you proud.

Shame on you.
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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but the process shaping up now is ship-out-illegals-with-no due-process-and-cheer

First it was the illegals.

Now they’re snatching legal aliens off the street and disappearing them

Next it will be you and me.

Finally, they’ll come for Dope and LM…. and won’t they be surprised!
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OH wait, I know who cares, the innocent Tesla employees who will eventually lose
their jobs because of the left mob protesters driving away potential Tesla car buyers.


The hypcrisy… it burns. It’s not that you are against boycotts or protests.

Need we remind you:
Disney
Bud Light
Starbucks

We have every right in this country to protest Elon Musk destroying the infrastructure of our government. And while you’re shedding tears for the employees of Musk, where are your tears for the tens of thousands of federal employees and their families, who have now lost their jobs? Not a tear, huh?

In any event, MAGA and Donald Trump hated EVs until Elon paid 200 million to Trump’s campaign. Now he’s your best buddy and suddenly Trumpvlle is up in arms about the meanie libs who don’t like Tesla.


As an aside- at a recent protest at a dealership, someone on the INSIDE of the building put up a sign facing out to thr crowd:

“We hate him also!” it read.


Go cry somewhere else. No sympathy for Elon here.
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I only have contrmpt for the liars who claim to be for law and order, then vote for a convicted felon, and then CHEER as masked men disappear people who have committed no crimes into Salvadoran slave labor camps…. All with blatant disregard for due process.

LOL! How pious of you after spending the last four years lying and making excuses for
Family Crime Boss Biden and his bagman son Hunter. Then Biden had the audacity to pardon his Crime
family minutes before his Term came to an end. How shameful of Biden.

Yep, Sniff and Snuff are quite the pair, even denying the existent of their daughter/granddaughter.

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We need the rank and file of MAGA to understand that even though they hate illegals, etc., that by affording illegals due process they protect themselves and their families.

1. Due process is the law of the land.
2. I have no doubt that’s given the chance, your average democrat would have zero compunction against abusing his/her power.

It’s what the left does.

With respect to the people being deported, most of the, have valid warrants and standing orders to leave.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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We said the left would riot…and they have been at Tesla dealerships!
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We have every right in this country to protest Elon Musk destroying the infrastructure of our government

Nah..Musk is exposing the democrats fraud, waste, and criminals siphoning monies that
don’t belong to them.

Go cry somewhere else. No sympathy for Elon here.

Elon Musk is the American taxpayers hero. 🥰
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With respect to the people being deported, most of the, have valid warrants and standing orders to leave.

An INCREASING number of them do not. And that’s the problem.

Furthermore, when called on it by the courts, they lie and dissemble- then bum rush them out of town anyway to a secret location.
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<<Fight reality, not ifs.>>

Look, we’re on the same side. I was a professional organizer for 15 years. I built an organization of 3,000 members from scratch. Our 3 chapters met weekly. We changed policies and advanced justice in a deeply impoverished and marginalized community.

Protests and donating to causes are good things to do, and I do them all the time. But, again, unless they are part of a feasible strategy to achieve a specific objective, they’re expressive not instrumental.

Strategy necessary entails considering “ifs”. Strategy is how we turn what we have into what we need to get what we want.
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Nah..Musk is exposing the democrats fraud, waste, and criminals siphoning monies that
don’t belong to them.


You’re either not paying attention, or you’re huffing your news again from gateway pundit.

In any event- check your bank statement for the next few months to make sure your Social Security is being deposited there.

Big Balls is hard at work with his sledgehammer
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But, again, unless they are part of a feasible strategy to achieve a specific objective, they’re expressive not instrumental.

Worth repeating- over and over and over again.
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Now they’re snatching legal aliens off the street and disappearing them

Yes, there's a smattering of attempting to make it look bona fide, but they end up out of the country before we know it usually.
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In any event- check your bank statement for the next few months to make sure your Social Security is being deposited there.

I’m not the least bit worry. Elon Must has admitted there were some mistakes made and were
quickly corrected.

Big Balls is hard at work with his sledgehammer

GOOD!

I’m beginning to think you might have something to hide with all your Elon protesting.
Still collecting on your 120 year old grandmothers SS check? 😉
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An INCREASING number of them do not. And that’s the problem.

Then Trump shouldn’t do that. Assuming that he is. After denying the border was wide open for 4 years the left isn’t to be trusted on this issue.

Well…on *any* issue, really.
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"Nah..Musk is exposing the democrats fraud, waste, and criminals siphoning monies that
don’t belong to them.

You’re either not paying attention, or you’re huffing your news again from gateway pundit."

I read today that Federal Spending is UP since Trump and Musk took over. So if Musk is finding
and stopping all of this fraud, is the money going in his pocket ?? It sure doesn't appear to be going back into the Treasury.
Where are all of the criminal prosecutions for fraud that Musk has unveiled ?? They'd be shouting
from the mountain tops if they had anybody to prosecute. They just got made up stories that gullible people believe.

Musk is an even bigger con man than Trump, and that is a high bar to get over.
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beginning to think you might have something to hide with all your Elon protesting.
Still collecting on your 120 year old grandmothers SS check? 😉


Elon announced that story with a huge fanfare. It was quickly proven that Elon and his young band of merry wreckers fidn’t have a clue how Social Security worked.

There were no checks being sent out to 120 year olds. That story is false, like so many of the stories you repeat.

Why people continue to trust news sources and politicians who lie more than they tell tge truth is beyond me.


Perhaps it’s that tingly feeling they get when they bite into those juicy nothingburgers.


Don’t get me wrong. Somene, somewhere—— perhaps even a number of someones- have managed to defraud Social Security. That’s what happens when almot 50 million people a month receive SS payments.

Fraud happens. But Social Security has been very good at catching it and prosecuting the fraudsters.

True story that goes to the heart of the issue:

Seven years ago, my wife’s first husband died of Parkinson’s. Three weeks later, she went in to the local SOCIAL Security office to report his death.

“Thank you,” they said, “but we already know.”

They already knew. Get that? They’d already made the adjustment to their records.


The idea that there were hundreds of thousands of people 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150, and 160 years old still receiving SS checks is ludicrous.

Elon and Trump continue to repeat that lie. What does that make them? Now that their lie has been exposed, debunked and proven to be hokum?



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1. Due process is the law of the land.
2. I have no doubt that’s given the chance, your average democrat would have zero compunction against abusing his/her power.

It’s what the left does.


You always grossly overstate. This idea you have is imaginary. We do have violations but we can't hold a candle to the right's ability to abuse power.


With respect to the people being deported, most of the, have valid warrants and standing orders to leave.

Not so recently. And a warrant doesn't mean the rest of due process can be ignored. Most of the illegals have committed no crime.
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There were no checks being sent out to 120 year olds. That story is false, like so many of the stories you repeat.

That was a joke, I guess you are in such a mad you didn’t get it.
Stop trying to make something out of nothing.
Elon made mention of the oldest person they found collecting SS. I don’t remember the exact age he quoted, but I believe he said something like 113 years of age, but don’t quote me on that.

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“Currently, the oldest known (documented) living man in the USA is Edwin Martin of Florida (born 15 February 1915), who is aged 110 years, 43 days (There are other candidates who may be older, but are not yet validated).”

https://gerontology.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_oldest....

The idea that there were hundreds of thousands of people 100, 110, 120, 130, 140, 150, and 160 years old still receiving SS checks is ludicrous.

Elon and Trump continue to repeat that lie. What does that make them? Now that their lie has been exposed, debunked and proven to be hokum?


OMG! No one has made that claim except you. STOP your lying.

Stop getting your quotes from your puppeteer masters telling you what lies you are to repeat over and over again.
Can’t help your TDS and now MDS so best you get help.



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It sure doesn't appear to be going back into the Treasury. - UNJ

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You are not counting the US Taxpayer funds that never leave the Treasury in the first place.
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Not so recently. And a warrant doesn't mean the rest of due process can be ignored. Most of the illegals have committed no crime. - Lapsody

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Except for breaking into our country in the first place.

Not saying that most of the ones who have not committed subsequent crimes after entry should be deported.
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saying that most of the ones who have not committed subsequent crimes after entry should be deported.

There are more now who came here legally, committed no crime, have a valid visa, yet were pulled off the street by masked ICE agents, thrown into an unmarked car and disappeared. Only through subsequent searches by family and attorneys was one woman abducted in Boston- finally found in a Louisianna prison.

Her crime? She was a PhD student at Tufts who wrote an article in her student newspaper, advocating for Palestinian rights in Gaza. She never even mentioned Hamas in the paper, yet was branded a Hamas terrorist sympathizer.

No crime. Only a “thought crime”.

Today I was reading about a Russian national- also here on a valid student visa. She’s being deported back to Russia, which will probably be bad for her as she is on record for criticizing Putin.

That’s just two. There are more. But it’s late and I need to get to bed. Preaching engagement in the morning at a little church a couple of towns over.

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Hope you and your protesters clean up after yourselves. The left is well know to leave their garbage and dodo bags behind.

Who’s to notice you in a park and who cares? LOL


I always leave with everything I came with. That’s just who I am.

I suppose we could get noticed more by storming the Capitol and violently attacking police officers, but the permit is for the park and that’s where we’ll protest.

OH wait, I know who cares, the innocent Tesla employees who will eventually lose their jobs because of the left mob protesters driving away potential Tesla car buyers.

There are no Tesla dealers in the park. If there was a Tesla dealer around, I would be happy to peacefully protest in front of the dealer’s showroom. Remember, I used to work at Planned Parenthood and put up with yelling and screaming lunatics on a daily basis for years. That was their right as an American, just like Tesla protesters.

You’re not hurting the richest man in the world, he has enough to get by on. You’re hurting innocent family bread winners.

Aren’t you proud.

Shame on you.


Like I said, I would protest in front of a Tesla dealership if there was one around here.

And I don’t recall your concern about innocent family bread winners when you guys boycotted Disney World or Bud Light or Nike or Target, so spare me your fake shame and crocodile tears.

If Musk gave 2 shits about his employees, let him double their wages and pay it out of his own pocket.

Musk is trying to destroy this country, so as far as I’m concerned, screw Tesla.



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I have no doubt that’s given the chance, your average democrat would have zero compunction against abusing his/her power.

Just like the libs were going to riot and storm the Capitol if they lost an election.

The lack of self awareness is strong in this one.
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Seven years ago, my wife’s first husband died of Parkinson’s. Three weeks later, she went in to the local SOCIAL Security office to report his death.

“Thank you,” they said, “but we already know.”


Just to reiterate what you said.

I’ve been executor for 5 wills; my parents, an aunt and uncle, and a first cousin. In each instance I called the SSA within 2 business days to report the deaths. In each instance the SSA Rep thanked me and then told me they already recorded the deaths.

If only DOGE was one-tenth that efficient.
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Except for breaking into our country in the first place.

They always trip the,selves up on that one, don’t they?
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Just like the libs were going to riot

left wing violence is a feature, not a bug.
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March 25, 2025 The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) on Monday announced its audit of the Social Security Administration (SSA) had removed 7 million accounts belonging to individuals listed over 120 years old.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/doge-s...

March 5 President Trump on Tuesday called for an end to people hundreds of years old collecting Social Security benefits — a claim his own administration has debunked.


https://www.axios.com/2025/03/05/trump-social-secu...

Note how slick Elon is in that first article. It was written only 5 days ago. By then, the whole story had been debunked (it was debunked way back in February). But Elon is insisting on keeping it alive.

But on March 25, though he can no longer state that 120 year olds are receiving SS checks, he still keeps the story alive by claiming to delete the accounts of 7 MILLION PEOPLE over 120.

All he’s doing here is deleting the records of former Ss recipients, which even if taken alone is a helluva bad idea.

The last date I could find for Donald Trump repeating the lie was March 4, at his joint session of Congress address, whic is still weeks after the lie was disproven.



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We (SSA) announced yesterday that more than three million deaths are reported to the Social Security Administration each year and explained that our records are highly accurate. Of these millions of death reports received each year, less than one-third of 1 percent are erroneously reported deaths that need to be corrected.Mar 17, 2025

My brother's wife worked in a funeral home and they reported the deaths every time. Musk misreads data, but it makes no difference to MAGA folk, unless you're the whose job gets eliminated. But it doesn't matter...


"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten,
every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed,
every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute.
History has stopped.Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."

George Orwell
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Nah..Musk is exposing the democrats fraud, waste, and criminals siphoning monies that
don’t belong to them.


Sorry, but you are a FOOL if you cannot see how corrupt this administration is. It's all out in the open. But if you only listen to right wing propaganda you won't know what's going on.
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"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten,
every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed,
every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute.
History has stopped.Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."

George Orwell
1984


Describes only too well what Project 2025 and Trump are attempting to do.
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Nah..Musk is exposing the democrats fraud, waste, and criminals siphoning monies that
don’t belong to them.


You know better LM. This is just bait. It's too bad we can't have straight talks with any of the MAGA.

Is there anything you've become disillusioned with about Trump so far?
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Lots of progress huh?


Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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I suppose we could get noticed more by storming the Capitol and violently attacking police officers, but the permit is for the park and that’s where we’ll protest.

Yes, That was the FIRST of many, many rallies across America to bring President Trump back to the White House. Tens of thousands of Americans attended Trump rallies last year.
The American voters remembered the wrong that was done last November.

Musk is trying to destroy this country, so as far as I’m concerned, screw Tesla.

Spare me your hate.

“This is how Democrats used to talk about illegal immigration”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncSPMom1Znw

“Why Elon Musk and DOGE Terrify Democrats”

https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2025/0...
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Remember, I used to work at Planned Parenthood and put up with yelling and screaming lunatics on a daily basis for years.

OMG! OMG!

You mean the same Planned Parenthood where they murder the innocent child in the womb?

Where a 75-year-old woman was sentenced to two years in prison for praying outside an abortion clinic? 🫨

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"Hope you and your protesters clean up after yourselves. The left is well know to leave
their garbage and dodo bags behind.

Who’s to notice you in a park and who cares? LOL

OH wait, I know who cares, the innocent Tesla employees who will eventually lose
their jobs because of the left mob protesters driving away potential Tesla car buyers.

You’re not hurting the richest man in the world, he has enough to get by on.
You’re hurting innocent family bread winners.

Aren’t you proud.

Shame on you."
- Lurkermom

I don't know what is funnier, the utterly depraved rank hypocrisy on your part or the fact that you are too deluded to see it.

Unintentional irony is the best form of humor and LM has certainly provided lots of laughs today.

Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself? Seriously.
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I’ve been executor for 5 wills; my parents, an aunt and uncle, and a first cousin. In each instance I called the SSA within 2 business days to report the deaths. In each instance the SSA Rep thanked me and then told me they already recorded the deaths.

No big deal..
"Funeral homes generally tell us when someone dies," the SSA said on its website. "So, you don't typically need to report a death to us." In instances when a funeral home is not involved or did not alert the SSA about the death, the individual calling on behalf of the deceased should provide the agency with the deceased's name, birthday, date of death and Social Security number, it said.”
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LurkerMom: Where a 75-year-old woman was sentenced to two years in prison for praying outside an abortion clinic? 🫨

No.

Paulette Harlow was convicted of civil rights conspiracy and violation of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act for blocking access to an abortion clinic in Washington DC.

She and others forcefully entered the clinic and blockaded two clinic doors using their bodies, furniture, chains, and ropes. Once the blockade was established, they live-streamed their activities.

The 1994 FACE Act prohibits the use of force and physical obstruction to interfere with a person obtaining or providing reproductive health services. Former President Bill Clinton backed the legislation in response to violence by anti-abortion activists in the 1980s and 90s.

The law was passed in response to violent attacks against patients and abortion providers. These included the murders of Dr. David Gunn, who was fatally shot in Pensacola, Florida, in 1993 by anti-abortion activist Michael Griffin, and of Dr. George Tiller, who was shot in the head at his church in Wichita, Kansas, in 2009 by anti-abortion extremist Scott Roeder.

But then, maybe Griffin and Roeder just got a little carried away with their "praying," dontchaknow.

You "law and order" folks really don't believe in law and order, do you now?

One more thing: you guys are so in love with the babies born here to undocumented immigrants that you can't wait to strip away their birthright citizenship and deport them to countries where they have never once set foot.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/paulette-harlow...
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Sheeple is having a raging debate about Climate Change reform and modernizing Medicare.

If not.

Why not ?

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"Hope you and your protesters clean up after yourselves. The left is well know to leave
their garbage and dodo bags behind.


LMAO. Oh, LM, you make yourself look like such a fool. Posting nonsense like that when you supported those who invaded our nation's capitol in an attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected POTUS. And your heros actually SHAT in the halls of Congress.
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No.

Paulette Harlow was convicted of civil rights conspiracy and violation of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act for blocking access to an abortion clinic in Washington DC.


And yet, her mission was to save the lives of the child in the womb.

One more thing: you guys are so in love with the babies born here to undocumented immigrants that you can't wait to strip away their birthright citizenship and deport them to countries where they have never once set foot.

Oh my, lookee here, a champion for pregnant illegal aliens breaking the Law entering
America so to give their unborn child a birthright citizenship and collecting all the
freebies at the expense of the American taxpayer.
Then on the other hand have no problem killing off the child in the womb whose families were
born and lived in America for generations.
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“We need the rank and file of MAGA to understand that even though they hate illegals, etc., that by affording illegals due process they protect themselves and their families.”

That’s not how fascism works.
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LurkerMom: And yet, her mission was to save the lives of the child in the womb.

How is "her mission" relevant? She broke the law. She was arrested. She was found guilty and sentenced. Although I am not surprised that someone who does not believe in habeas corpus believes that individuals on a mission do not need to adhere to the rule of law while others who they detest deserve no protections under the law.

LurkerMom: Oh my, lookee here, a champion for pregnant illegal aliens breaking the Law entering America so to give their unborn child a birthright citizenship and collecting all the freebies at the expense of the American taxpayer.

Although it's been explained to you dozens of times you never seem to understand that not all migrants here are here illegally. Certainly not all arrive here pregnant. And undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.

Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act and are prohibited from purchasing unsubsidized health coverage on ACA exchanges.

Undocumented immigrants may be eligible for a handful of benefits that are deemed necessary to protect life or guarantee safety in dire situations, such as access to treatment in hospital emergency rooms but then evidently republicans would be happy to just watch them die.
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I believe it is the responsibility of the funeral service to report the information.

You may be focussed on the wrong issue. Listen to the recent DOGE Brett Baier interview. Doge has a great team (by great I mean highly successful people that don't need another job in their life but are really public servants not like the Shumer's of the world) and they are quickly fixing 50 year old processing issues that leave the government open to fraud and inefficiency. Mostly related to implementing tech solution to manual process that date back 50+ years. They are projecting solutions that may be completed in 6 months or less where the government has failed in the past to implement similar solutions with longer timelines (years) and higher cost that were never used. Just wasted money. Not to throw the government under the bus, but this happens in business as well.

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Gator1984: ...are really public servants...projecting solutions that may be completed in 6 months or less...

Right.

Like Edward Coristine, the public servant who provided tech support to EGodly, a cybercrime group. BTW, experts say there's no way they can complete the conversion in 6 months without major consequences.


Gator1984: ...they are quickly fixing 50 year old processing issues that leave the government open to fraud...

Social Security has a fraud rate of 0.00625%.

The fact that intelligent people believe Musk -- whose trucks fall apart, whose cars burst into flames, and whose rockets explode -- is quite remarkable.


https://www.brookings.edu/articles/doge-is-disrupt...

https://fortune.com/2025/03/27/a-doge-staffer-work...
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having been involved in design and deployment of massive software systems and re-engineered business processes...if you genuinly think this can be achieved in 6 months or so... I have many bridges to sell you...seriously !
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Although it's been explained to you dozens of times you never seem to understand that not all migrants here are here illegally. Certainly not all arrive here pregnant. And undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.

Of course, the migrants who came here legally, waited their turn, had a sponsor and a job waiting for them.

SNIP
In NYC, “Mayor Eric Adams’ administration will soon start handing out pre-paid credit cards to migrant families being put up in Big Apple hotels, The Post has learned.

The $53 million pilot program, run by the New Jersey company Mobility Capital Finance, will provide asylum seekers arriving at the Roosevelt Hotel with the city cash to help them buy food, according to city records.”

SNIP
“New York City officials are boasting that a taxpayer-funded program that hands out $350 per week to migrant families is helping to set an example for the rest of the nation on how to manage the "national humanitarian crisis" created by mass illegal immigration.

Although the program has drawn opposition from critics who question giving illegal immigrants no-strings handouts from the city's strapped coffers, officials seem to think the program is a major success.

"New York City is leading the nation in managing this national humanitarian crisis, having cared for more than 203,900 migrants since the spring of 2022" a city hall spokesperson told Fox News

SNIP
“Thousands of migrants in NY quietly collecting ‘welfare’ through Hochul rule change”

https://nypost.com/2024/02/10/metro/thousands-of-m...

SNIP
UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES MAY A NONCITIZEN BE ELIGIBLE FOR SSI?

A noncitizen (also called an "alien" for immigration purposes) may be eligible for Supplemental Security Income

SNIP
“States Must Pay Health and Education Benefits to Illegal Immigrant Families
When the federal government neglects to control the border, the resulting illegal immigration imposes an “unfunded mandate” on the states. The states must spend money on a problem created by the federal government without receiving federal reimbursement. Some of the state expenditures are for population-based services — roads, bridges, police, courts, etc. — which naturally increase in cost as the population increases. But the costs of illegal immigration are not limited to infrastructure. States also must provide social services to illegal immigrants, primarily on behalf of their children.”

https://cis.org/Richwine/States-Must-Pay-Health-an...

Lots more if you care to look for them.

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Me: Most of the illegals have committed no crime. - Lapsody
Mike: Except for breaking into our country in the first place.

Mike, until recently 70% of the illegals flew in and overstayed their visas - which is not a crime. So 70% are no criminals because the didn't "break into our country". Additionally, those who crossed the b/rder and claimed asylum (refugee status) did not enter illegally. There are a ton of those. In addition, for some of those who crossed illegally it is a federal misdemeanor - not sure how that happens.

So now that the bulk of illegals are overstays, the number of those "breaking into our country" is getting smaller and smaller, and the number of non criminals is getting larger and larger - more than 70% - probably closer to 95-98% (just guessing)

So, as I said, most of the illegals have committed no crime. A higher immigration population percentage in an area does not correlate to higher crime.
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So, as I said, most of the illegals have committed no crime. A higher immigration population percentage in an area does not correlate to higher crime. - Lapsody

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So we are utterly helpless to do anything about the bad guys embedded there-in.

You fail to recognize the criminal illegals have to go. It doesn't matter how tiny of a fraction they are of the group they embed in, they are still criminals who need to go.

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"Listen to the recent DOGE Brett Baier interview. Doge has a great team (by great I mean highly successful people that don't need another job in their life but are really public servants not like the Shumer's of the world) and they are quickly fixing 50 year old processing issues that leave the government open to fraud and inefficiency. Mostly related to implementing tech solution to manual process that date back 50+ years. They are projecting solutions that may be completed in 6 months or less where the government has failed in the past to implement similar solutions with longer timelines (years) and higher cost that were never used. "

Still using sources of information that are taking advantage of you and making you look foolish?

Why not use better sources that don't make you look so naive and ignorant?
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NY TIMES

GAVIN NEWSOM

BILL MAHER

Just 3 "sources" who say that you Club 401K Liberals are in an echo chamber, talk down to people, and in some ways totally out of sync and extreme with the American people.



How are those sources?
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The other day I mentioned The Daily Beans podcast. Today's episode would be a great one to start with. Interspersed in the news of the fascist shit storm is the good news of Wisconsin's Supreme Court election and Sen. Cory Booker historic speech. There is also a fantastic interview with Joyce Vance White. The show ends with the usual Good News segment. The news from Louisiana was a story I have not seen reported and is important. I highly recommend everyone give it a try.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/wisconsin-feat-12572...
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