And now you want to say we are stampeding a quick decision Mike? You aren't really for democracy in Ukraine are you Mike? You just pay lip service and then seize whatever talking point comes down the pike.

Do you want to replenish our stock piles and give democracy a chance in Ukraine? It doesn't look like you do Mike. Sad. This is a no brainer Mike if you want to protect democracy and value our allies too. You made a bad choice. = Lapsody

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I am surprised that you can't see, or can see and won't admit, my simple point.

But before I restate that point, let me get this out of the way, I support Ukraine, I want them to prevail, I believe in democracy, etc etc etc.

So please don't construe my noticing a flaw in the argument used to support it as some sort of proof I not only want Ukraine to fall but that in general I don't even support democracy.

Sheesh.

The argument flow

1) Ammo Shortage, people are dying, pass this aid bill ASAP.

2) That's a lot of money

3) It is a lot of $$ but the need is urgent and we need to pass it. BTW, most of the $$ will be spent domestically to replenish US supplies.

4) OK, makes sense, and this domestic spending angle does make the big $$ seem a little easier to take.

5) bhm asks: While we are writing this big and completely necessary check, can we at least admit to ourselves, that this bill will not provide any ammo to Ukraine in the near term given procurement cycles, time to ramp up US production, and so forth. Any ammo from the bill will likely not reach Ukraine for quite some time.

6) bhm still values democracy when he questions why the bill is still presented as an answer to a present day ammo shortage in Ukraine.