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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Steve203 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Show us your papers
Date: 01/17/26 8:38 PM
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Steve, nothing that you posted indicates that ICE acted at all illegally or improperly regarding Ozturk.

I will go farther than that. I will agree that, in her case, the agents treated her much better than in some other videos being circulated. They even let her call someone to tell them she was being arrested, so those friends could hire legal counsel, to go to court to contest her imprisonment. If she had no-one to call, would she still be sitting in prison, in Louisiana? The issue is *why* her visa was revoked. She did not bomb an ICE office. She did not obstruct ICE officers. She did not do physical harm to anyone. She expressed an opinion, in a newspaper, and, for that, she was deemed a "terrorist".

I would even agree that, of the three videos I posted earlier, the guy gassing up his car was not instantly manhandled. The lead officer took the time to look at the guy's ID, and he can be heard asking the guy "where were you born?". The issue is the guy was minding his own business, gassing up his car. The unmarked SUV full of ICE officers pulled into the gas station, the officers dismounted, and rousted the guy, for no perceptible reason, other than he was brown.

All it's really going to take to kick her azz out permanently is anything slightly off-color or threatening or demeaning.

That puts us back to the Bush #43 junta, where no-one, but a US citizen, has any rights at all, including no right of speech.

They can't do it to me because I'm a U.S. born citizen

Don't bet the bank on citizenship, or white skin, making you safe. If you attract attention, in a way they don't like, you will be set up for something.

Steve

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