Same thing for the law.

They’re on the wrong side of it. Period. Calling them criminals or not isn’t really relevant when you boil it down to that fact alone.

NOT what we presently are doing. The net is too wide, it's catching people that shouldn't be caught,

Are they illegal or not? Have they skipped check ins or are they subject to deportation orders or not?

Because if they have skipped appointments. Aren’t in one of the programs designed to keep people out of the shadows or are under an active deportation order…


…then they’ve had their chances and need right go.

That actually has a negative effect in that now they are afraid to show up for their court dates.

You know that when I E shows up to a courthouse that person who’s in front of the judge is likely there for some crime they committed, right? Or that they fall into one of the categories I listed above?

If they don’t show up to court for, say, Assault 4 what does that say about them?

If they're living quiet lives, leave them alone. They'll never be citizens, and if they tried their status would quickly be determined, and they'd get deported. If they run afoul of the law, deport them (after whatever appropriate punishment for whatever offense put them afoul of the law).


But there’s much more to it. Al ducked this part completely. An incentive in th form of a stealth amnesty - such as you suggest - leaves in place all sorts of negative incentives in the form of increased border crossings, burden on schools, lower supplies of housing, name it.

If we put the onus on employers to determine resident/work status, most of the undocumented population would self-deport because they couldn't get a job.

Then why not more of a robust guest worker program? I have zero problem dropping the hammer on employers who knowingly hire illegals.