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Subject: Birthright citizenship
Date: 12/09/25 5:43 PM
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When Lord Trump decreed an end to birthright citizenship, he said his decree would only apply going forward. There is an implicit modification to that position in this report.

Trump insists birthright citizenship only 'meant for the babies of slaves'

"If the court sides with you and ends birthright citizenship, are you going to try to take away citizenship from people who already had it?" she wondered.

"I honestly haven't thought of that, but I will tell you this. The case is very interesting because that case was meant for the babies of slaves," Trump argued. "And if you look at the dates on the case, it was exactly having to do with the Civil War and all of a sudden their whole family becomes, you know, United States citizens."

"That case is all about slaves, the babies of slaves, and it was a good reason for doing it," he continued. "And that's all it was about."

msn.com - Trump insists birthright citizenship only meant for the babies of slaves

Of course, trying to take away the citizenship of USian born people, with non-citizen parents, going back to the Civil War, would seem to violate the Constitutional prohibition on "ex post facto" laws, but the regime will probably argue that the previous interpretations of the 14th were in error, so the people never had citizenship in the first place.

I doubt his nibs is telling the truth when he claims he had not thought of denying citizenship to people who were born before his decree. Since the racist immigration law was replaced in 1965, only about 14% of immigrants to the US were WASPs. Following, the same train of thought, if the US born spawn of immigrants are not citizens, then their US born spawn are not citizens either, and so on, down through the generations, to now.

My paternal grandfather was not naturalized until 1921. My father was born in the US, in 1912. Under Lord Trump's latest brain fart, dad would not be a citizen. However, as was the practice at the time, when my grandfather, as head of the family, was naturalized, the entire posse was naturalized, so my dad is listed on his dad's Certificate of Naturalization.

Steve....100% USian
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