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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48483 
Subject: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/09/2023 5:59 PM
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DeSantis is on a roll. There ought to be a law that women in states where this happens cannot migrate to California. You elected him, you stay there.


---- Sweet home Alabama, (oh, sweet home, baby)
Where the skies are so blue and the governor's true,
Southern man don't need you around anyhow....


Florida News:
''He (DeSantis) has just impoverished all the older women of Florida, and I know at least 3,000 women across the state of Florida are switching to Democrat and we will campaign against him, all the way, forever,' Camille Fiveash, a Milton Republican who receives permanent alimony, said in a phone interview Friday.


Along with eliminating permanent alimony, the measure will set up a process for ex-spouses who make alimony payments to seek modifications to alimony agreements when they want to retire.

It will allow judges to reduce or terminate alimony, support or maintenance payments after considering a number of factors, such as 'the age and health' of the person who makes payments; the customary retirement age of that person's occupation; 'the economic impact' a reduction in alimony would have on the recipient of the payments; and the 'motivation for retirement and likelihood of returning to work' for the person making the payments.


https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/this-is-a-death...

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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/09/2023 6:57 PM
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He also just passed a law to allow FL to ignore NH drivers licenses as invalid, even though that's illegal. Even I know that. Contacts and marriages and other official documents have to be recognized by all states, regardless of their own laws governing those issues.

It's part of his crackdown on immigrants, but he still can't do it under current federal law.
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Author: TroySR71   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/10/2023 2:38 AM
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...can't do it under current federal law. - 1PG

I'm not sure that is accurate. Here in California the federal government does not except or recognize standard issued California CDL's or ID's. The reason is that the State of California issues those to all illegal aliens and or others that can not prove they are an American citizen. The Federal government will only recognize what is now called a Real CDL or ID card issued by the State of California to folks in California who have provided proof that they are in fact an American citizen (I believe I had to provide my original birth certificate and SS card and maybe something else as well, I forget. No photo copies excepted).

With that said, I believe Florida is basically doing exactly what the federal government is already doing to a lot of states across the country, not just California.

Here is a link to a statement issued by Gov. DeSantis...
https://www.flgov.com/2023/07/05/governor-ron-desa...

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Governor Ron DeSantis announced that the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles (FLHSMV) has published a list of out-of-state license classes that are invalid in Florida as of July 1, 2023, in accordance with Senate Bill (SB) 1718. This list is available on the FLHSMV public website and notifies visitors of invalid licenses no longer accepted in this state.

Earlier this year, Governor DeSantis signed SB 1718, the strongest anti-illegal immigration legislation in the country. Among other provisions to combat Biden's Border Crisis, the bill prohibits the issuance of a driver license to anyone who does not provide proof of lawful presence in the U.S. and specifies that out-of-state driver licenses issued exclusively to illegal aliens are invalid in Florida. Those presenting an invalid out-of-state driver license during a traffic stop will be subject to the penalties outlined in Section 322.03 Florida Statutes.

'Someone who is in our country illegally and has violated our laws should not possess a government-issued ID which allows them access to state-funded services and other privileges afforded to lawful residents,' said Governor Ron DeSantis. 'The Biden administration may continue to abdicate its responsibilities to secure our border, but Florida will stand for the rule of law. Even if the federal government refuses, Florida will act decisively to protect our citizens, our state, and our country.'
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/10/2023 11:05 AM
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Here in California the federal government does not except or recognize standard issued California CDL's or ID's. The reason is that the State of California issues those to all illegal aliens and or others that can not prove they are an American citizen.

The Fed has no objection (that I'm aware of) to the issuance of a CDL for driving purposes. I got the RealID upon renewal but IINM, could have been issued a standard, non RealID, CDL that would only be valid for driving purposes.

If I only had the DMV issue a CDL for driving and got pulled over for speeding in FLA, I doubt a local cop would care that it's not a 'California Real ID."

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Author: WiltonKnight   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/10/2023 2:02 PM
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so chauvinistic to insinuate that only women get alimony.

In this "equality" society men get equal alimony. Dont they?
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/10/2023 2:41 PM
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In this "equality" society men get equal alimony. Dont they?

Yes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/30/style/men-alimo...

However, because an "equality" society is aspirational, not something that exists in the present, there are significant cultural biases against men asking for alimony - even when they are entitled to it. This article is somewhat dated, but for the population of older folks that are likely to be affected by the Florida law there is almost certainly an overwhelming gender imbalance among those who receive alimony:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmajohnson/2014/11/2...
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/10/2023 6:17 PM
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I believe that is different. The feds can have blanket standards independent of the States. But I believe the feds have a rule that a contract, license, etc, issued in one state is valid in all states. Otherwise your marriage in one state could be invalid in another state, contracts could be invalid in another, etc. It would be a mess. The feds are empowered to regulate interstate matters, and that's why they made that rule.

As I recall, that was the basis for the Loving decision. They were married in one state, moved to WV where it was illegal, and the Court said that WV had to recognize that marriage.
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Author: TroySR71   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/12/2023 1:23 AM
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I believe the feds have a rule that a contract, license, etc, issued in one state is valid in all states. - 1PG

I would agree up to a point. If a state condones illegal activity within their borders and then reinforces that behavior by giving those in their state illegally US government document(s), give them welfare, free medical, allow them to vote and hold positions in local, county and state government and private employment. Actually, here in California, illegals receive and have more access to government assistance then US citizens do.

With that, I don't believe the federal government can require states to accept "fraudulent" documents from other states that would appear to suggest that the person in possession of said document is a US citizen and or in this country legally.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/12/2023 4:42 AM
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If I only had the DMV issue a CDL for driving and got pulled over for speeding in FLA, I doubt a local cop would care that it's not a 'California Real ID."

There's only 4 states with specific driver only licenses proscribed. CA isn't one of them.
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Florida Man Strikes Back!
Date: 07/12/2023 12:02 PM
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There's only 4 states with specific driver only licenses proscribed. CA isn't one of them.

The CA DMV issues licenses that are Real IDs as well as cards that are not federally compliant.

Do you think I'd be treated differently in FLA if I was getting cited for going 62mph in a 55 with a CA non Fed Compliant license?


https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-licenses-iden...
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