Post #102 by sykesix on the Tesla board

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So Musk didn't just say that 'no safety operator intervened', he said there was no one in the car, and no one controlling it from a distance. They probably did have someone watching what is was doing, and the whole thing was recorded, but it is hard to argue that this wasn't just what it was claimed to be, a bona fide self-delivery.

Those are identical statements right? The person watching it is what I called the safety operator. You can call it a a remote monitor or what ever you like, but there was a person ready to intervene in case of trouble. As far as I can tell, we're in agreement.

This is the claim that I responded to:

True camera-only FSD. No safety driver/observer.

As you point out, there was a safety observer. It would be irresponsible not to have one, especially the first time. As I said previously this a remarkable technical achievement, but I see no reason to inflate it beyond what actually happened.

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