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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", sykesix asked the members: "What do you do if you arrive early at movie besides go to the snack bar?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: mungofitch ✹✺🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: Reversion to .....mean? S&P?
Date: 04/20/25 10:41 AM
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On June 17, 2005, just under 20 years ago, the S&P 500 was valued about 5% more richly than its average valuation multiple since then.
On June 17, 2005, just under 20 years ago, Berkshire was valued about 5% more richly than its average valuation multiple since then.
Since those are the same, it seems like a reasonable starting point.

Currently, the S&P 500 is valued about 25.6% more richly than its average since that same date in June 2005.
Currently, Berkshire is valued about 27.5% more richly than its average since that same date in June 2005.
Again, pretty close, so it's coincidentally not such a bad end point to consider.


First, I fixed the typo, the above is correct. I said S&P twice in the last section.

And PS, that last bit should NOT be interpreted as saying that the S&P and Berkshire are equally overvalued at the moment.
They are equally overvalued relative to their respective 20-year average valuation levels, which is not the same thing.

Berkshire's 20 year average price-to-peak-book is 1.397, which is hardly high, so being a little above that would not count as overvalued in my books. We're quite a bit above that, so today might amount to "moderately overvalued"?

And the S&P's 20 year average trend real earnings yield of 4.16% equates to a P/E of 24, so even that average level seems a bit rich. As we are now sitting 27.5% above that at 30.6 times trend real earnings, it really does seem overvalued to me.

Jim
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