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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Threatens Zelenski
Date: 03/01/25 2:29 PM
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Some adults are figuring it out. Albeit slowly:

Financial Times: Content 232d8d11 5f65 4e86 880e 1e22150320f6

Europeans rally around Zelenskyy but will struggle to formulate a plan to defend Ukraine
The showdown in the Oval Office has exposed the huge rift between the US and Europe


The european position is to defend europe down to the last Ukranian, Pole and American. They don't have any other plan:

The breakdown in relations between Zelenskyy and Trump also piles pressure on senior European leaders meeting in London on Sunday for a hastily arranged summit hosted by Starmer.

The summit is aimed at formulating proposals to collectively protect Ukraine and boost spending on defence, reducing the continent’s dependence on America.

“We finally need to wake up and realise: ‘This is it’,” said a senior EU diplomat in response to the White House fallout. “We are on our own and the parents on the other side of the Atlantic have just turfed us out of the family home, cut off our allowances and disinherited us.”


Slowly, some Euros are getting it. But some still haven't:

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During their visits to the White House this week, Macron and Starmer made a co-ordinated attempt to persuade Trump to provide military back-up for a possible European stabilisation force in Ukraine, which they both said was indispensable. Those efforts have been derailed by Friday’s showdown in the White House.


How about...no?
What we have is going to be needed elsewhere. The Europeans can provide the 'peacekeeping force' - oh, right. They don't have any equipment left.
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