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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Subject: Re: War ravaged Portland
Date: 09/29/25 8:02 PM
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If we can't agree on basic facts, then there's zero point in continuing.

That's why I'm asking you to provide the facts. You suggested that there had been basically three months of continuous, ongoing violence. Not merely protest, not merely non-violent lawbreaking, but actual continual violence. That would be very unusual, especially since (as I noted upthread) this is a federal law enforcement agency, and many of those folks have the power to arrest people who commit crimes in their presence. So I just asked you to provide me with those facts.

Lots of links about the fact that there was a violent riot in mid-June - which the Portland PB moved in on and disbursed. No links demonstrating that we've had continual violence since then.



I'm sick of the reality denial on this board.

It's not reality denial or rock-fetching. You're making rather extraordinary claims. It would be really surprising if a small group of individuals could continually engage in violent acts against a federal law enforcement facility for months on end. These buildings are filled with federal agents that have arrest authority and guns. It probably isn't true that there's been continual violent attacks for three months straight against that facility. If you want to make that claim, it's not unreasonable to ask you to support it.

I think you should seriously consider the possibility that your own perceptions of what's been happening in Portland might be inaccurate: that what happened in mid-June is not representative of what's been happening for the following hundred days, and that after the Portland PB shut down the June event what remained did not involve continuous and ongoing violent assaults (again, against armed federal agents with arrest powers) for a full three months thereafter.
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