I pulled up the transcript. He doesn't talk about the negotiations at all.

Sorry to put you through that. Now that I'm back, I did more searches, as that was apparently the wrong interview.

Here's the one I was talking about...I listened to the entire 22 minutes to make sure.

From May 28. At the 1:30 mark, Kent and Ana start discussing how the reports of friction between Trump and "Bibi" are fake, for public/Iranian consumption. 3:00 Kent talks about the US putting "poison pills" in their demands to sabotage the negotiations. 3:50 negotiations are "theater", weeks have I started calling the talks a kabuki dance.

“It’s All Theater”: Trump’s Former Counterterrorism Chief on Why the Iran Peace Talks Are a Sham

tytnetwork.substack.com - Its all theater trumps former counterterrorism

Kent and Ana also start talking about their suspicions there is something else in play, but they don't know what. My theory is that something else is profits for big oil, from the artificial constraint of supply.

Steve