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Author: g0177325   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: WSJ analysis of ICE
Date: 01/12/26 10:55 AM
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I was surprised to find that there have been 13 incidents since July ,but not at all surprised to find that they are undertrained, and in many cases do exactly what the guidelines *(and training, if they had it) say they should not do.

In the Renee Good incident, the shooter - Jonathan Ross - had 10 years prior experience in ICE, and has been in law enforcement since 2007. So, he was likely well trained, but his personality and prior experiences caused him to act against training.

From Wikipedia - en.wikipedia.org - Killing of Renee Good

The day after the shooting, the Minnesota Star Tribune identified the ICE agent involved as Jonathan Ross.[2] His name had not been publicly released by federal authorities, but was identified by the Star Tribune through court records.[3][4]

In press briefings held soon after the incident, both Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem and Vice President JD Vance mentioned that the shooting suspect had been injured previously in a traffic stop six months prior to this incident. Their statements led to the Star Tribune's discovery of the case describing such an incident.[2][31][32] The previous incident involving Ross took place during an attempted arrest in Bloomington, Minnesota, on June 17, 2025,[33][34] when he was dragged 50 yards (45 m) and injured by a vehicle after he smashed its window and reached in to unlock the door.[2][35][36]

Ross graduated from Richwoods High School in Peoria, Illinois, in 2001.[37] He worked for the US Border Patrol from 2007 to 2015[36] and in the Indiana National Guard from 2002 to 2008. He served as a machine gunner in the Iraq War from 2004 to 2005.[37] Court documents listed his start date with ICE as 2016.[38] He was in the Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) unit of ICE at the time of the shooting.[32] Ross testified in December that he was "a firearms instructor, an active shooter instructor ... a field intelligence officer, and ... a member of the SWAT team, the St. Paul Special Response Team".[39]

Ross's family and friends describe him as a "hardcore conservative Christian and MAGA supporter".[32]


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