BHM:I am sure there is a lot more border reporting on local news etc down here so you may not see the effectiveness of razor wire. It has really opened my eyes. Places where thousands crossed per day with all the associated chaos are now quiet and serene. No one around, you could have a picnic. Looking across the river into Mexico, no one over there either.

No. I'm familiar with it. I lived in a compound with 4 strands of barb wire on top of a six foot concrete wall with broken bottle glass embedded in the top. It didn't stop two sneak thieves, one got my wife's karaoke. But she wanted razor wire. I liked the razor wire too, but 1. There is always a way around for the dedicated, 2. The law and courts have ruled against the razor wire. We're much better off to come to an agreement and change the law, and do it now It's just a grand stand ploy and a distraction from the dishonor of not living up to our commitments to democracy in the Ukraine with the Euros and the world, and failure to deal rationally with the border problem. If we fail to fund Ukraine, we have started the decline of the USA.