Erdogan (I love when he is gutsy to talk about Israel and ESPECIALLY when he lets the racist, Colonizing Europeans have it too). I'm also glad that when Bush said that Turkey should be in the EU --- Club 401K Liberals shouted to Bush "mind your own business" - I'm SO GLAD that Bush's vision of a studious, warm, intelligent and progressive Muslim Country--living WITH the West ---never came true. I much prefer this---- it means more punishment .

BUT Israel will sink him in other ways than war I feel. For instance, the idiot isn't doing himself favors with economic and monetary policy so he's doing it to himself.

Israel can hit him financially without anyone tracing it.



Go back in time Steve. Whether you liked him or not -- Look at George HW Bush and James Baker post Gulf-War. Look at the tough language they used about Israeli settlements.

Then see how interest rates 'oddly" stayed a bit high, for a bit long. And how the rates were lowered a bit late...and how GDP was quietly starting to grow by the time HW left office.