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Author: lizgdal   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Examining 4 timing schemes
Date: 08/18/26 8:48 PM
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musselmant wrote: "You can just pick all Nasdaq100 stocks and see on gtr that 325 days beats 200 for a timing test on SPY."

I confirmed musselmant's finding. Aussi posted a gtr1 screen with sma timing in MI post 5735, with various buy and sell cutoffs. I used the cutoffs Aussi identified (1.0 0.9 and 0.95 0.89), and sorted the results by CAGR/LDDD3.

Results from 19721214 to 20251128:
CAGR/LDDD3        Screen        CAGR  SAWR  GSD   LDDD3  MDD  UI  Sharpe  AT
1.52 N1T_sma325_100_090 14.7 9.0 21.0 9.7 -42 13 0.59 0.2
1.44 N1T_sma325_095_089 14.8 9.0 21.7 10.3 -45 14 0.58 0.2
1.37 N1T_BCC0 16.3 7.9 21.9 11.9 -72 25 0.65 0.6
1.36 N1T_sma200_095_089 14.3 8.4 21.3 10.5 -50 14 0.57 0.3
1.18 N1T_sma200_100_090 12.8 7.8 20.9 10.9 -49 15 0.50 0.3
0.90 N1T 13.6 6.2 25.4 15.1 -81 31 0.49 0.0


In the longest backtest with N1T, timing using 325 day sma beats 200 day sma, with a higher CAGR and lower risk metrics. Timing using BCC=0 has the highest CAGR but also significantly higher risk metrics.

Results from 19991231 to 20251128:
CAGR/LDDD3  Screen              CAGR  SAWR  GSD   LDDD3  MDD  UI  Sharpe  AT
1.36 N1T_sma325_100_090 12.5 7.8 18.6 9.2 -38 14 0.67 0.2
1.28 N1T_sma325_095_089 12.6 7.7 19.2 9.9 -38 14 0.66 0.2
1.06 N1T_sma200_095_089 11.4 6.7 19.5 10.8 -50 17 0.60 0.4
0.77 N1T_sma200_100_090 8.9 5.6 19.3 11.6 -49 18 0.47 0.4
0.65 N1T_BCC0 10.2 4.0 21.2 15.7 -72 36 0.51 0.7
0.44 N1T 8.4 3.0 26.3 19.2 -81 44 0.39 0.0


A 26 year backtest that includes the 2000 and 2008 crashes also shows 325 day sma better than 200 day sma. Timing using BCC=0 does worse in this time period, with lower CAGR.

Results from 20051230 to 20251128:
CAGR/LDDD3  Screen              CAGR  SAWR  GSD   LDDD3  MDD  UI  Sharpe  AT
2.22 N1T_BCC0 17.3 12.5 18.2 7.8 -29 9 0.95 0.7
1.78 N1T_sma325_100_090 15.4 10.1 18.3 8.7 -34 12 0.85 0.2
1.71 N1T_sma325_095_089 15.7 10.9 19.1 9.2 -38 11 0.84 0.2
1.64 N1T_sma200_095_089 15.2 10.8 18.9 9.3 -37 11 0.82 0.4
1.38 N1T 15.8 10.2 21.6 11.4 -54 12 0.77 0.0
1.07 N1T_sma200_100_090 11.5 8.6 18.7 10.8 -38 13 0.64 0.4


A 21 year backtest that includes the 2008 crash also shows 325 day sma better than 200 day sma. Timing using BCC=0 does better in this time period, with higher CAGR.

gtr1.net: GTR1 Backtester - N1T
gtr1.net: GTR1 Backtester - N1T_sma200_095_089
gtr1.net: GTR1 Backtester - N1T_sma200_100_090
gtr1.net: GTR1 Backtester - N1T_sma325_095_089
gtr1.net: GTR1 Backtester - N1T_sma325_100_090
https://gtr1.net/2013/?~N1T_BCC0:h1::trp%281,1%29n...
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