I disagree on the "job creator is a con" -- but I don't care enough to argue it. I'm satisfied in America and the West as to who are now the job creators - and who are the binge drinkers tattoo-buyers. and needing freee child care. My hope is more people have this spirit and it totally kills job creation in america and the West---which leads to lower tax revenues more cut services. and eventual political violence in the most affluent places. I'm patient.

So I cede the point, with hopes of dastardly consequences.

As far as Hillary --- your example is well taken. Heck on what used to be my side - W did same thing in 2000. In 2004 W and Kerry were different - but members of literally some same clubs. (The Caste system I've spoken about ;)

I will say this----I do feel there is some difference. I'm not sure Hillary would cut research - the way Trump has. I'm not sure Hillary would take a run at hospice like Trump has. I'm not sure Hillary would want to cut Social Security or medicare benefits or Medicaid or food stamps - the way the Republicans might.

There still are - some noticeable differences.