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The week's question
In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: AdrianC   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Latest from Howard Marks
Date: 01/07/25 5:30 PM
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That chart at the end is quite illustrative.

The graph, from J.P. Morgan Asset Management, has a square for each month from 1988 through late 2024 [he means 2014], meaning there are just short of 324 monthly observations (27 years x 12). Each square shows the forward p/e ratio on the S&P 500 at the time and the annualized return over the subsequent ten years. The graph gives rise to some important observations:

There’s a strong relationship between starting valuations and subsequent annualized ten-year returns. Higher starting valuations consistently lead to lower returns, and vice versa. There are minor variations in the observations, but no serious exceptions.

Today’s p/e ratio is clearly well into the top decile of observations.

In that 27-year period, when people bought the S&P at p/e ratios in line with today’s multiple of 22, they always earned ten-year returns between plus 2% and minus 2%.


Ah, but this time it's different.
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