Hi, Shrewd!        Login  
Shrewd'm.com 
A merry & shrewd investing community
Best Of PoliticsBest OfAll BoardsThe Shrewd’m WeeklyLearn to InvestHow to Become Shrewd
Search
Shrewd'm.com Merry shrewd investors
Search
Best Of PoliticsBest OfAll BoardsThe Shrewd’m WeeklyLearn to InvestHow to Become Shrewd


The week's question
In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
Answer this questionContinue to Shrewd'mThis note won't appear again
Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
Unthreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (25) |
Author: albaby1 SILVER
SHREWD
  😊 😞

Number: of 84350 
Subject: Re: Bibi and Hezbullah
Date: 09/23/24 5:36 PM
Post New | Post Reply | Report Post | Recommend It!
No. of Recommendations: 4
The young progressives who might make a difference on college campuses across the purple states don’t share your instinctive acceptance of Israel as a natural ally of the US in the region, and could generally care less about hezbullah’s relationship with Iran. They see an extension of Israeli war crimes in the region. It’s hard to shake the image of an obedient daughter obliterated because the Israeli military had to use their Trojan horse immediately.

But those folks' opinions aren't going to be changed by engaging with Hezbollah. The faction within the Democratic party that's super-engaged on this issue isn't going to have their attitudes changed, or their hands strengthened, by opening up the conflict with Hezbollah.

That's the point. Compared to what's happening in Gaza and the West Bank, the impact on "young progressives who might make a difference on college campuses" from the engagement with Hezbollah is as trivial as a mousefart in a hurricane. And for the broader Democratic party, it makes it easier to minimize the disruption to the election effort. The broader the conflict, the less that any of the other players in the Democratic party have to treat the hostilities as solely about the Palestinians. In a close election, every issue is important - but even given that, the significance of "war with Hezbollah" (rather than with Hamas) is going to be so far down the list as to be trivial.

And there is nothing silly about Bibi’s calculus. As I said, a trump victory seals settler rule over the Israeli state, and the settler coalition has no qualms about waging total war on the Palestinian people and their allies in the region. A Harris victory might spell the end of Bibi, or at least the end of his free reign.

You're vastly overstating how decisive the US Administration matters to Netanyahu's fate, and implicitly massively overstating the role that he can play in affecting the electoral outcome here. Trump can't save Bibi if he loses control of the domestic political situation, and Harris can't doom him if he has the support of the electorate. And Netanyahu can have only the tiniest, barest, smallest impact on the U.S. election - which will almost certainly be minor compared to our domestic politics.

IOW, going to war with Hezbollah will certainly be something very important to the Israeli electorate, and certainly something that it utterly unimportant to the US electorate. Given that reality, it would indeed be silly for Netanyahu to base his decision making based on speculation about the US electorate rather than the impact on the Israeli electorate.
Post New | Post Reply | Report Post | Recommend It!
Print the post
Members reply directly to albaby1 here — and replies get answered. Reading is free; so is joining the conversation. Join Shrewd'm »
This community has written 84,309 posts about US Policy. The article-length ones it recommended most:
It's going to get worse · 33 recs · 2025
G’day Donny · 30 recs · 2026
Old Related Story · 28 recs · 2026
HCR is a national treasure · 27 recs · 2025
Fascism in America · 27 recs · 2025
Unthreaded | Threaded | Whole Thread (25) |


Announcements
US Policy FAQ
Contact Shrewd'm
Contact the developer of these message boards.

Best Of Politics | Best Of | Favourites & Replies | All Boards | Followed Shrewds | Open Questions | Moving a community