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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Harris isn't really black?
Date: 08/05/24 4:27 PM
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And yet you continually argue that Biden (and now Harris) might lose votes if they take the wrong policy on Israel and Palestine. To the point where you've arguing that Harris risks losing votes just for picking the wrong VP.

You misunderstand. Harris picking a pro-Israeli IDF veteran VP might cause some folks in Dearborn or Hamtramck to stay home. They're not voting for Trump. Why would they? He's even more pro-Israel than Shapiro is.

No, they didn't. Obama vastly increased the numbers of deportations at the border.

Obama gamed the system to make himself look tough on deportations; in reality he was no such thing.

numbersusa.com - How obama administration inflates deportation statistics

Removal numbers have traditionally consisted of legal immigrants who have committed crimes, those who overstay visas, or illegal aliens caught inside the country.The immigration statistics yearbook states that removals are the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal.An alien who is removed has administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry owing to the fact of the removal.In the past, removal numbers did not include “returns,” who are Mexican nationals caught illegally crossing the border by the Border Patrol and returned.According to the yearbook, returns are the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal.Most of the voluntary returns are of Mexican nationals who have been apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol and are returned to Mexico.The Obama administration has started counting certain “returns” as “removals” in order to artificially inflate the numbers and create a “record level” of deportations.

Politifact and other spin sites tried to sugar coat this, but that's what they do. They cited "experts" who claimed Nothing To See Here then rated every claim False.

But in reality, Obama played a shell game.

cis.org - Deportation Numbers Unwrapped
In 2012, the year the Obama administration claimed to break enforcement records, more than one-half of removals attributed to ICE were the result of Border Patrol arrests that would never have been counted as a removal in prior years. In 2008, under the Bush administration, only one-third of removals were from Border Patrol arrests.
Total deportations in 2011, the latest year for which complete numbers are available, numbered 715,495 – the lowest level since 1973. The highest number of deportations on record was in 2000, under the Clinton administration, when 1,864,343 aliens were deported.


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He did do a ton of stuff that immigration activists hated, because he knew he had to keep the numbers under control.

Barack Obama was a savvy operator and knew the media would report things that made him look good with normies. Under the surface it was all nonsense.

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