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In December 2024, in the thread "Re: BRK: Why Not XOM?", BreckHutHigh asked the members: "What about the long road trips with kids?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Goofyhoofy ✸✹🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: WSJ analysis of ICE
Date: 01/12/26 8:03 AM
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Videos Show How ICE Vehicle Stops Can Escalate to Shootings

A WSJ visual investigation found that the Minneapolis ICE killing is one of 13 incidents where federal immigration agents have used deadly force against civilians in vehicles since July

A killing in Minneapolis and the shooting of two people in Portland, Ore., this week are the latest in a string of incidents involving immigration agents firing at civilian vehicles.

The Wall Street Journal has identified 13 instances of agents firing at or into civilian vehicles since July, leaving at least eight people shot with two confirmed dead. According to court records and lawyers, only one civilian was armed—with a concealed weapon that was never drawn—and at least five of those shot were U.S. citizens. Several federal officers reported injuries, including bruised ribs, a dislocated finger and a bite wound.

The Journal reviewed public records—court documents, agency press releases and gun-violence databases—of vehicle shootings involving immigration agents, though video is only publicly available for four of them. Videos for some of the other shootings remain under protective order or footage hasn’t been released by the relevant agency, despite requests from the Journal.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which oversees federal immigration agents, said use of force was justified in the 13 cases and charged at least six people with assaulting a federal officer. Charges were later dismissed in three of the cases.

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I was surprised to find that there have been 13 incidents since July ,but not at all surprised to find that they are undertrained, and in many cases do exactly what the guidelines *(and training, if they had it) say they should not do.

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